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Ottawa needs to repair damage to census-gathering process: Ivan Fellegi

Canada's top statistics man for more than 20 years offered some remedies
to the federal government's much maligned decision to scrap the
mandatory long census.

Ivan Fellegi, Canada's chief statistician emeritus, says he wants
Statistics Canada to remain a regular part of the government but he also
wants to see some additional protections built into the model.

One concrete change proposed by Fellegi is to embed the United Nations
Fundamental Principles of Official Statistics in an amended Statistics
Act.

The first principle emphasizes the need for impartiality, but provides
no guidance on how to achieve this goal, he said while giving the Symons
Lecture on the State of Canadian Confederation Tuesday in Charlottetown.

The second principle, he says, would be used to retain trust in official
statistics by Statistics Canada using strictly professional
considerations, including scientific principles and professional ethics,
on the methods and procedures for the collection, processing, storage,
and dissemination of statistical data.

"This has clearly been violated,'' he said, lashing out at the Harper
government for scrapping the mandatory long census form for the 2011
census and replacing it with a voluntary national household survey.

All Canadians still received a mandatory short census this year.
However, one in three households were sent the new household survey as
well. Previously, one in five households were sent the mandatory
long-form census.

Felligi says making the response voluntary will result in a
misrepresentation of the population. He says it is well known that
vulnerable groups have a lower tendency to respond to voluntary surveys,
as well as people with lower levels of education and income, Aboriginal
persons, recent immigrants, among others.

He offered the following quote from an article published in the Hill
Times by researcher Armine Yalnizyan as best summarizing the negative
impact the government's controversial move on census gathering will have
on a huge range of users of Statistics Canada's data.

"Without this information, we cannot make informed decisions about where
to plan the next extension of public transit, or where to target
different types of health resources...the knowledge it offers forms the
backbone of our society, an information society that needs and wants to
know about itself.''

Fellegi told the large crowd gathered in the Homburg Theatre at the
Confederation Centre of the Arts he does not remember the last time so
many well-informed people and organizations became so vocal about a
single issue.

Fellegi, who was Chief Statistician of Canada from 1985 to 2008, says
his successor resigned when the minister responsible for Statistics
Canada implied that Statistics Canada might have supported the voluntary
long form as a vehicle that could provide information equivalent to the
compulsory census. Fellegi considers such an assessment professionally
indefensible.

"If you can't trust the evidence, you would be stupid to make decisions
based on that evidence,'' he said.

"Trust is utterly fundamental.''

Fellegi is also calling for a transparent process for the appointment of
the Chief Statistician of Canada.

He strongly urges Parliament to modify the Statistics Act to require
that, whenever a vacancy occurs in that position, a panel of eminent
persons should be appointed to look for suitable candidates and to
recommend a short list to the government.

He suggested members of such a panel might be composed of people like
the presidents of the Statistical Society of Canada and of the Royal
Society of Canada, retired heads of the Bank of Canada, and retired
clerks of the Privy Council.

Fellegi concluded his lengthy presentation by stressing the need for
appropriate treatment of official statistics.

Like clean water, he explained, the public expects clean official
statistics when needed.

To keep official statistics clean, notes Fellegi, requires proactive
maintenance through legal safeguards and on-going public vigilance.

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<h1 style=3D'background:white'><b><font size=3D6 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:24.0pt'>Ottawa needs to repair damage to =
census-gathering
process: Ivan Fellegi</span></font></b></h1>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Canada&#8217;s top statistics man for more =
than 20 years
offered some remedies to the federal government&#8217;s much maligned =
decision to
scrap the mandatory long census.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Ivan Fellegi, Canada&#8217;s chief =
statistician emeritus,
says he wants Statistics Canada to remain a regular part of the =
government but
he also wants to see some additional protections built into the =
model.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>One concrete change proposed by Fellegi is to =
embed
the United Nations Fundamental Principles of Official Statistics in an =
amended
Statistics Act.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The first principle emphasizes the need for
impartiality, but provides no guidance on how to achieve this goal, he =
said
while giving the Symons Lecture on the State of Canadian Confederation =
Tuesday
in Charlottetown.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The second principle, he says, would be used =
to retain
trust in official statistics by Statistics Canada using strictly =
professional
considerations, including scientific principles and professional ethics, =
on the
methods and procedures for the collection, processing, storage, and
dissemination of statistical data.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&#8220;This has clearly been =
violated,&#8217;&#8217; he said, lashing
out at the Harper government for scrapping the mandatory long census =
form for
the 2011 census and replacing it with a voluntary national household =
survey.</span></font></p>

All Canadians still received a mandatory =
short census
this year. However, one in three households were sent the new household =
survey
as well. Previously, one in five households were sent the mandatory =
long-form
census.

Felligi says making the response voluntary =
will result
in a misrepresentation of the population. He says it is well known that
vulnerable groups have a lower tendency to respond to voluntary surveys, =
as
well as people with lower levels of education and income, Aboriginal =
persons,
recent immigrants, among others.

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>He offered the following quote from an =
article
published in the Hill Times by researcher Armine Yalnizyan as best =
summarizing
the negative impact the government&#8217;s controversial move on census =
gathering
will have on a huge range of users of Statistics Canada&#8217;s =
data.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&#8220;Without this information, we cannot =
make informed
decisions about where to plan the next extension of public transit, or =
where to
target different types of health resources...the knowledge it offers =
forms the
backbone of our society, an information society that needs and wants to =
know
about itself.&#8217;&#8217;</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Fellegi told the large crowd gathered in the =
Homburg
Theatre at the Confederation Centre of the Arts he does not remember the =
last
time so many well-informed people and organizations became so vocal =
about a
single issue.</span></font></p>

Fellegi, who was Chief Statistician of Canada =
from
1985 to 2008, says his successor resigned when the minister responsible =
for
Statistics Canada implied that Statistics Canada might have supported =
the
voluntary long form as a vehicle that could provide information =
equivalent to
the compulsory census. Fellegi considers such an assessment =
professionally
indefensible.

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&#8220;If you can&#8217;t trust the evidence, =
you would be stupid
to make decisions based on that evidence,&#8217;&#8217; he =
said.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&#8220;Trust is utterly =
fundamental.&#8217;&#8217;</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Fellegi is also calling for a transparent =
process for
the appointment of the Chief Statistician of Canada.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>He strongly urges Parliament to modify the =
Statistics
Act to require that, whenever a vacancy occurs in that position, a panel =
of
eminent persons should be appointed to look for suitable candidates and =
to
recommend a short list to the government.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>He suggested members of such a panel might be =
composed
of people like the presidents of the Statistical Society of Canada and =
of the
Royal Society of Canada, retired heads of the Bank of Canada, and =
retired
clerks of the Privy Council.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Fellegi concluded his lengthy presentation by
stressing the need for appropriate treatment of official =
statistics.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Like clean water, he explained, the public =
expects
clean official statistics when needed.</span></font></p>

<p style=3D'background:white'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To keep official statistics clean, notes =
Fellegi,
requires proactive maintenance through legal safeguards and on-going =
public
vigilance.</span></font></p>

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