[Advisors] PAC is over but not CAP-Y
lynda.rickard@tag4kl.org
lynda.rickard at tag4kl.org
Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:30:35 -0400
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Thanks Dana. We also received the letter in Kawartha Lakes, ON. I'm still=
looking for ways to keep our organization solvent.Lynda
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From: "Dana Perry" <awvcscor@valleylibrary.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:48 PM
To: "James Van Leeuwen" <jvl@dusk.ca>
Subject: Re: [Advisors] PAC is over but not CAP-Y
With all due respect as a coordinator for the CAP program in NS it is
not a "dead horse". Support youth absolutely...but to turn our back on
the program is ludicrous and cowardly. The program I support and
promote is forward thinking and innovative...which is more than I can
allow the bureaucrats. I read some of your other posts and thought
them to be quite good. This one...not so much.
Quoting James Van Leeuwen :
> From here on, I think TC should focus almost entirely on Canada's youth.
>
>
> I've pointed out that the Conservative political franchise is built
> around the insecurities of Canada's predominantly self-interested
> senior generations.
>
> There is great political strength in their numbers, but regrettably
> - with notable exceptions - there is far less strength in their
> political character.
>
> Frankly, I would not envy the legacy that Canada's senior
> generations are now creating for themselves.
>
>
> Recognize this announcement and the craven timing of its delivery
> for what it truly is.
>
> It is a statement of indifference to the needs and interests of our
> youth and underclass.
>
> Continued support for CAP-YI is but a fig leaf.
>
> The needs and interests of youth are at best an afterthought to this
> government, and to most older Canadians.
>
> Even if the government could be compelled to restore CAP funding, it
> would not change this deeper reality.
>
> They have offered no credible or compelling vision for the nation's
> future, and I believe it is futile to engage them in this context.
>
>
> We are all very busy people.
>
> Let's stop flogging nearly-dead horses, and invest where there is
> energy, opportunity and genuine hope.
>
> If Canada's youth are being left to their own devices, let's help
> them put their devices to the best possible use.
>
> Let's engage them and support them in painting and pursuing a
> meaningful vision that is all about their future, and creating a
> legacy that is worth celebrating.
>
>
> We might start by bringing some active and able youth on to the TC
> Board and Advisory committees.
>
>
> JvL
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2012-04-06, at 10:22 AM, James Van Leeuwen wrote:
>
>> The Conservatives won their mandate on a two-plank platform of low
>> taxes and getting tough on crime.
>>
>> They are appealing directly to the anxieties of an aging
>> population, and this is their entire political franchise.
>>
>> So play where the puck is.
>>
>>
>> All site coordinators should be reaching out to their local press
>> to explain the economic and social impacts of this decision.
>>
>> TC can make it easy for them by laying out the economic and social
>> impacts in the most compelling way.
>>
>>
>> What are the real and potential impacts?
>>
>> I'm hardly the expert, but I've recently learned of a First Nation
>> community in northeastern Alberta where youth are breaking into
>> school to access the Internet.
>>
>> It's the only access solution they can afford, as there is no CAP
>> site in their community.
>>
>>
>> What are the potential implications for Joe citizen?
>>
>> Is somebody thinking of breaking into their home, business or
>> workplace to access the Internet?
>>
>> This is a conclusion many people will draw for themselves... it
>> doesn't need to be spelled out.
>>
>>
>> It only takes two letters or phone calls to an MP for them to flag
>> an issue as worthy of their attention.
>>
>> If every MP in the country with a CAP site in their riding were
>> making inquiries of the Industry Minister, they might actually be
>> compelled to respond.
>>
>> What might compel CAP site users and non-users alike to reach out
>> to their MPs?
>>
>>
>> JvL
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2012-04-06, at 6:36 AM, David Murdoch wrote:
>>
>>> Some consolidated response to this unfortunate - but not unforseen -
>>> news would seem to me to be a job for TC.
>>>
>>> What should it be?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> 2012/4/5 Marita Moll :
>>>> Translation of Monique's report:
>>>>
>>>> We have received news to the effect that the CAP program is
>>>> terminated. It
>>>> is considered to have achieved it's goals in the current context of
>>>> balancing the budget.
>>>>
>>>> However, CAP-YI will be continued and CAP sites will continue to be
>>>> recognized as workplaces to offer employment experience to youth
>>>> and provide
>>>> a transition to the labour market.
>>>>
>>>> We are awaiting the necessary forms.
>>>>
>>>> I take this occasion to wish you all a Happy Easter
>>>>
>>>> Monique Chartrand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 09:09 PM 05/04/2012, Monique Chartrand wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bonjour =E0 vous,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nous avons re=E7u la nouvelle =E0 l'effet que le Programme d'acc=E8s
>>>>> communautaire (PAC) d'industrie Canada est termin=E9, consid=E9r=E9
>>>>> avoir atteint
>>>>> ses objectifs en raison de la recherche d'=E9quilibre budg=E9taire.
>>>>>
>>>>> Par contre, on nous annonce la poursuite de l'IJ-PAC (PAC-Y) et le fa=
it
>>>>> que les CACI (CAP site) demeureront admissibles, afin d'offrir des
>>>>> opportunit=E9s d'exp=E9rience d'emploi aux jeunes pour leur fournir d=
es
>>>>> comp=E9tences essentielles vers une transition sur le march=E9 du tra=
vail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nous aurons sous peu les modalit=E9s pr=E9vues.
>>>>>
>>>>> J'en profite pour vous souhaiter de Joyeuses P=E2ques, Happy Easter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Monique
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Monique Chartrand
>>>>> Directrice g=E9n=E9rale
>>>>> Communautique
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ca.linkedin.com/in/moniquechartrand
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Advisors mailing list
>>>> Advisors@tc.ca
>>>> http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Murdoch Consulting davidmurdoch.ca
>>> East River, Nova Scotia Phone: (902) 275-2309
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Advisors mailing list
>>> Advisors@tc.ca
>>> http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Advisors@tc.ca
>> http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors
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Association of Western Valley C@P Sites
26 Bay Road, PO B0x 640
Bridgetown, Nova Scotia
B0S 1C0
(902) 665-2995 Extension 230(office)
(902) 665-4899(fax)
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<font style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt">Thanks Dana. We =
also received the letter in Kawartha Lakes, ON. I'm still looking for=
ways to keep our organization solvent.<div>Lynda<br><br><font size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"Tahoma, Arial, Sans-Serif"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"ce=
nter"><strong>From</strong>: "Dana Perry" <awvcscor@valleylibrary.ca>=
<br><strong>Sent</strong>: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:48 PM<br><strong>To</s=
trong>: "James Van Leeuwen" <jvl@dusk.ca><br><strong>Subject</strong>=
: Re: [Advisors] PAC is over but not CAP-Y</font><br><br>With all due respe=
ct as a coordinator for the CAP program in NS it is <br>not a "dead horse"=
. Support youth absolutely...but to turn our back on <br>the program is lu=
dicrous and cowardly. The program I support and <br>promote is forward thi=
nking and innovative...which is more than I can <br>allow the bureaucrats.=
I read some of your other posts and thought <br>them to be quite good. T=
his one...not so much.<br><br>Quoting James Van Leeuwen <jvl@dusk.ca>:<br><=
br>> From here on, I think TC should focus almost entirely on Canada's y=
outh.<br>><br>><br>> I've pointed out that the Conservative politi=
cal franchise is built <br>> around the insecurities of Canada's predom=
inantly self-interested <br>> senior generations.<br>><br>> There=
is great political strength in their numbers, but regrettably <br>> - =
with notable exceptions - there is far less strength in their <br>> pol=
itical character.<br>><br>> Frankly, I would not envy the legacy that=
Canada's senior <br>> generations are now creating for themselves.<br>=
><br>><br>> Recognize this announcement and the craven timing of i=
ts delivery <br>> for what it truly is.<br>><br>> It is a stateme=
nt of indifference to the needs and interests of our <br>> youth and un=
derclass.<br>><br>> Continued support for CAP-YI is but a fig leaf.<b=
r>><br>> The needs and interests of youth are at best an afterthought=
to this <br>> government, and to most older Canadians.<br>><br>>=
Even if the government could be compelled to restore CAP funding, it <br>=
> would not change this deeper reality.<br>><br>> They have offere=
d no credible or compelling vision for the nation's <br>> future, and I=
believe it is futile to engage them in this context.<br>><br>><br>&g=
t; We are all very busy people.<br>><br>> Let's stop flogging nearly-=
dead horses, and invest where there is <br>> energy, opportunity and ge=
nuine hope.<br>><br>> If Canada's youth are being left to their own d=
evices, let's help <br>> them put their devices to the best possible us=
e.<br>><br>> Let's engage them and support them in painting and pursu=
ing a <br>> meaningful vision that is all about their future, and creat=
ing a <br>> legacy that is worth celebrating.<br>><br>><br>> W=
e might start by bringing some active and able youth on to the TC <br>>=
Board and Advisory committees.<br>><br>><br>> JvL<br>><br>>=
<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> On 2012-04-06, at 10:22 AM, James =
Van Leeuwen wrote:<br>><br>>> The Conservatives won their mandate =
on a two-plank platform of low <br>>> taxes and getting tough on cri=
me.<br>>><br>>> They are appealing directly to the anxieties of=
an aging <br>>> population, and this is their entire political fran=
chise.<br>>><br>>> So play where the puck is.<br>>><br>&g=
t;><br>>> All site coordinators should be reaching out to their lo=
cal press <br>>> to explain the economic and social impacts of this =
decision.<br>>><br>>> TC can make it easy for them by laying ou=
t the economic and social <br>>> impacts in the most compelling way.=
<br>>><br>>><br>>> What are the real and potential impact=
s?<br>>><br>>> I'm hardly the expert, but I've recently learned=
of a First Nation <br>>> community in northeastern Alberta where yo=
uth are breaking into <br>>> school to access the Internet.<br>>&=
gt;<br>>> It's the only access solution they can afford, as there is =
no CAP <br>>> site in their community.<br>>><br>>><br>&g=
t;> What are the potential implications for Joe citizen?<br>>><br>=
>> Is somebody thinking of breaking into their home, business or <br=
>>> workplace to access the Internet?<br>>><br>>> This is=
a conclusion many people will draw for themselves... it <br>>> does=
n't need to be spelled out.<br>>><br>>><br>>> It only tak=
es two letters or phone calls to an MP for them to flag <br>>> an is=
sue as worthy of their attention.<br>>><br>>> If every MP in th=
e country with a CAP site in their riding were <br>>> making inquiri=
es of the Industry Minister, they might actually be <br>>> compelled=
to respond.<br>>><br>>> What might compel CAP site users and n=
on-users alike to reach out <br>>> to their MPs?<br>>><br>>=
><br>>> JvL<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On 201=
2-04-06, at 6:36 AM, David Murdoch wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Some =
consolidated response to this unfortunate - but not unforseen -<br>>>=
> news would seem to me to be a job for TC.<br>>>><br>>>&=
gt; What should it be?<br>>>><br>>>> David<br>>>>=
;<br>>>> 2012/4/5 Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net>:<br>>>>=
;> Translation of Monique's report:<br>>>>><br>>>>&=
gt; We have received news to the effect that the CAP program is <br>>&g=
t;>> terminated. It<br>>>>> is considered to have achiev=
ed it's goals in the current context of<br>>>>> balancing the b=
udget.<br>>>>><br>>>>> However, CAP-YI will be cont=
inued and CAP sites will continue to be<br>>>>> recognized as w=
orkplaces to offer employment experience to youth <br>>>>> and=
provide<br>>>>> a transition to the labour market.<br>>>=
>><br>>>>> We are awaiting the necessary forms.<br>>&g=
t;>><br>>>>> I take this occasion to wish you all a Happy=
Easter<br>>>>><br>>>>> Monique Chartrand<br>>&g=
t;>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> At 0=
9:09 PM 05/04/2012, Monique Chartrand wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>=
;>>>> Bonjour =E0 vous,<br>>>>>><br>>>>=
>> Nous avons re=E7u la nouvelle =E0 l'effet que le Programme d'acc=
=E8s<br>>>>>> communautaire (PAC) d'industrie Canada est ter=
min=E9, consid=E9r=E9 <br>>>>>> avoir atteint<br>>>&g=
t;>> ses objectifs en raison de la recherche d'=E9quilibre budg=E9tai=
re.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Par contre, on nous ann=
once la poursuite de l'IJ-PAC (PAC-Y) et le fait<br>>>>>> qu=
e les CACI (CAP site) demeureront admissibles, afin d'offrir des<br>>>=
;>>> opportunit=E9s d'exp=E9rience d'emploi aux jeunes pour leur f=
ournir des<br>>>>>> comp=E9tences essentielles vers une tran=
sition sur le march=E9 du travail.<br>>>>>><br>>>>&=
gt;> Nous aurons sous peu les modalit=E9s pr=E9vues.<br>>>>>=
><br>>>>>> J'en profite pour vous souhaiter de Joyeuses P=
=E2ques, Happy Easter,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Moni=
que<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>=
Monique Chartrand<br>>>>>> Directrice g=E9n=E9rale<br>>&=
gt;>>> Communautique<br>>>>>><br>>>>>&g=
t; <http: ca.linkedin.com=3D"" in=3D"" moniquechartrand=3D"">http://ca.link=
edin.com/in/moniquechartrand<br>>>>>><br>>>>><br=
>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> _________________=
______________________________<br>>>>> Advisors mailing list<br=
>>>>> Advisors@tc.ca<br>>>>> http://victoria.tc.ca/=
mailman/listinfo/advisors<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><b=
r>>>> --<br>>>> David Murdoch Consulting davidmurdoch.ca<=
br>>>> East River, Nova Scotia Phone: (902) 275-2309<br>>>=
> _______________________________________________<br>>>> Adviso=
rs mailing list<br>>>> Advisors@tc.ca<br>>>> http://victo=
ria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors<br>>><br>>> _______________=
________________________________<br>>> Advisors mailing list<br>>&=
gt; Advisors@tc.ca<br>>> http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advis=
ors<br><br><br>-- <br>Dana Perry<br>Regional Coordinator<br>Association of =
Western Valley C@P Sites<br>26 Bay Road, PO B0x 640<br>Bridgetown, Nova Sco=
tia<br>B0S 1C0<br><br>(902) 665-2995 Extension 230(office)<br>(902) 665-489=
9(fax)<br>www.awvcaps.ca<br>awvcscor@valleylibrary.ca<br><br>CONFIDENTIALIT=
Y/PRIVACY NOTE: The information contained in this email <br>is legally pri=
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