[Advisors] FW: [CivicAccess-discuss] Comments: Federal Open Government ActionPlan...
michael gurstein
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Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:41:01 -0300
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-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Wherry [mailto:Aaron.Wherry@macleans.rogers.com]=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:58 PM
To: michael gurstein
Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Comments: Federal Open Government
ActionPlan...
Thanks Michael. I added a note about CAP to a new post about open
government.
On 12-04-13 12:12 AM, "michael gurstein" <gurstein@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Aaron,
As below I understand that you are looking for comments on the Federal =
Open
Government Action Plan.
It seems to me to be a reasonable set of first steps but the problem is =
when
this is combined with the elimination of the Community Access Program =
(see
attached) a significant proportion of the population (those without =
personal
access to the Internet) will be excluded from having easy low cost =
access to
this data/information.
See also my series of blogposts on Open Government Data (I ended up =
doing a
series... A search on my blog for "Open Government Data" will point you =
to
these if you have an interest...
This was the first one (which "went viral" at the time. (see the =
comments...
http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/open-data-empowering-the-empower=
ed-
or-effective-data-use-for-everyone/
(I'm currently in Brazil for the Open Government Partnership meeting at =
the
invitation of the International Development Research Centre (IDRC) but =
I'll
be back in Canada after Apr. 19 if you have an interest in pursuing this
discussion by relephone.
Best,
Mike
Michael Gurstein, Ph.D.
Executive Director: Centre for Community Informatics Research, =
Development
and Training (CCIRDT) Vancouver, BC CANADA
tel/fax: +1-604-602-0624
email: gurstein@gmail.com
web: http://communityinformatics.net
blog: http://gurstein.wordpress.com
twitter: #michaelgurstein
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From: civicaccess-discuss-bounces@civicaccess.ca
[mailto:civicaccess-discuss-bounces@civicaccess.ca] On Behalf Of James
McKinney
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:39 PM
To: civicaccess discuss
Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Comments: Federal Open Government
ActionPlan...
Aaron Wherry of Maclean's is asking for responses to the action plan
https://twitter.com/#!/aaronwherry/status/190473414530707456
His blog is widely read:
http://www2.macleans.ca/category/blog-central/canada-blog/beyond-the-comm=
ons
/
I would recommend sending him any thoughts/reactions to the =
announcement. He
responds well to substance. According to this page
(http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/08/17/roll-call/) you can reach him at
aaron.wherry@macleans.rogers.com, or just tweet him.
James
On 2012-04-12, at 3:48 PM, James McKinney wrote:
> The action plan is quite short - the main content is at this page:
> http://open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ap-pa04-eng.asp
>
> It is interesting that they are going to run a pilot to accept
> electronic payment for ATI requests, as the requirement to pay by
> cheque has been a major barrier to anyone outside Canada filing
> requests. It should be noted that Canada is one of few countries that
> charges to file a request - most are either free or only charge
> processing fees.
>
> On 2012-04-12, at 11:18 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>
>> I just read this, and here are my quick reflections:
>>
>> Progress is being made, but with teeny tiny steps.
>>
>> Transparency:
>> There is nothing in there about transparency, which mean pipeline
>> information will still be inaccessible, administrative data are only
>> alluded to, when programs are cancelled (e.g. Canadian Foundation for
>> Climate and Atmospheric Sciences (CFCAS), CPRN) where do those data
>> go so I am not sure if access to HIFIS will ever be available.=20
>> Regulation can still be changed behind closed doors, cabinet memos
>> remain secret, and so on. Organizations like Centre for Law and
>> Democracy and Democracy Watch have been watching this closely and
>> they can better than I speak to that issue.
>>
>> Archiving Data:
>> Nothing is said about the preservation of data and information
>> related to cancelled programs, or scientific and research data in
general. There will be additional access to some archived material once
clearance has been removed, but nothing in the plan about the archiving =
and
preservation of data nor digitization. For example the Polar =
Environment
Atmospheric Research Laboratory (PEARL) (http://www.cfcas.org/PEARL/) is
being shut down, is scrambling to have their terrabytes of data =
deposited in
the Canadian Polar Data =
(http://www.api-ipy.gc.ca/pg_IPYAPI_052-eng.html)
which was funded by the International Polar Year. The scientists are =
doing
this almost gratis. But nothing was in place for Canadian Policy =
Research
Network (CPRN) (http://www.cprn.org/index.cfm). Fortunately in that =
Case
because of two of Canada's top public policy schools are at Carleton U, =
the
Library chose to archive their site, otherwise, that material would have
been lost. Where is the schoolnet da
ta? CAP data? there is not gc.ca website archive.
>>
>> Trusted Digital Repository
>> There is also nothing on a trusted digital repository nor is there
>> any mention about research data, (i.e.
>> http://rds-sdr.cisti-icist.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/news/data_summit_report
>> .html), I like that citizens were listened to via an online
>> consultation, but I also have deep respect for Canada's expert
>> opinions on issues, and the"national approach to managing Canada's
>> research data" was such a document and Canadian research librarians,
>> researchers and big science data manages did contribute to this, yet
>> there is no mention of it.
>>
>> Gov. Information Library but what of Depository Service Program: In
>> terms of the Gov Information Library, that is exciting but the
>> Depository Service Program (DSP0
(http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/programs/aboutDsp.html) already did
that, and federal institutions by law were to deposit in these, and also
ensure that libraries across Canada disseminated government information.
Unfortunately, IT departments did not consider web publications to be
publications and therefore did not deposit web documents there. For
example, my favorite government program GeoConnections only had 2-3
documents in the Archives and no documents in the DSP and only a couple =
in
government libraries, and now that its side has been changed due to
accessibility, many documents were removed and who knows where they =
went,
but I can tell you their material did not go into their own Library as I
found more at Carleton U than the NRCan library! And that is one of the
good ones. I hope this works, but with CLF and accessiblity, which
documents will be in that libra
ry?
>>
>> Record Keeping
>> It is great to see record keeping back on the table, however, that
>> has been a TBS directive in place
>> (http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?section=3Dtext
<http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?section=3Dtext&id=3D16552> =
&id=3D16552)
>> since 2009 while Library and Archives Canada has been providing
>> material on how to do that for much longer. Also, what kind of
>> enterprise system? Will Canadians be made aware of the system being
>> put in places? How robust is it? Is it proprietary? Will Canadians
>> be providing this new technology or will it be a US company? Who was
>> awarded the Contract?
>>
>> Administrative Data or PSI
>> I hope that "resource allocation and performance management
>> information" means administrative data or public sector information
>> and not just evaluation data. For example, how many students receive
>> canada student loans by province, would be administrative data, or
>> the HIFIS data I mentioned earlier, or pipeline plans survey plans,
>> and I wonder if that is what is meant here? What about government
>> procurement? Why would a new term be used when internationally these
>> other terms are recognized and widely used.
>>
>> Consultations:
>> It would be great if consultations also happened with experts and
>> that those consultations were open, the Research Data Canada example
provided above is one of them. There is also merit in round tables on
issues which is something the National Science Foundation in the US does
really well. I personally am not that excited about a twitter summit, =
but I
do appreciate the opportunity for meaningful dialogue. Also, along with
working with the public, what if we have concerns about the pipeline or =
the
cancellation of the census, will the government actually listen? That =
too
is a form of consultation and government & public deliberation, which I =
have
not yet heard much about. For example, we will have open data, but what =
if
we make discoveries with those open data, how do we deliberate with the
evidence.
>>
>> These are my quick observations, Harvey and I will go through the
>> material sent to us during the teleconferences and will use that
>> information to elaborate further. One of Harvey's points is really
>> important, where are the provinces, territories and municipalities.=20
>> It is true that this is a federal initiative, however, the OGP is
>> about Canada, and only federal Canada and the federal plan is being
>> discussed and there have been no consultations with provinces, and as
>> we know, this is where land registries and administrative data exist.
>>
>> Cheers
>> t
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Harvey Low <HLOW@toronto.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello everyone.
>> >=20
>> > FYI - here's the link to the Action Plan.
>> > http://open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/information-eng.asp
>> >=20
>> > As a Civil Society Representative at the Open Government
>> > Partnership Meeting in Brazil next week, Tracey and I will be =
providing
feedback from the calls we have had with some of you and the feedback =
from
this group.
>> >=20
>> > Harvey Low
>> > Civil Society Rep
>> > Canadian Council on Social Development
>> > National Community Data Program
>> > http://www.ccsd.ca/index.php?option=3Dcom_content
<http://www.ccsd.ca/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Dcategory&layou>=
&view=3Dcategory&layou
>> > t=3Dblog&id=3D53&Itemid=3D228&lang=3Den
>> >=20
>> >=20
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tracey P. Lauriault
>> 613-234-2805
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Aaron Wherry [mailto:Aaron.Wherry@macleans.rogers.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> =
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Michael. I added a note about CAP to a new post about open=20
government.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 12-04-13 12:12 AM, "michael gurstein" =
<<A=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR><BR>Hi Aaron,<BR><BR>As below I =
understand that=20
you are looking for comments on the Federal Open<BR>Government Action=20
Plan.<BR><BR>It seems to me to be a reasonable set of first steps but =
the=20
problem is when<BR>this is combined with the elimination of the =
Community=20
Access Program (see<BR>attached) a significant proportion of the =
population=20
(those without personal<BR>access to the Internet) will be excluded =
from=20
having easy low cost access to<BR>this data/information.<BR><BR>See =
also my=20
series of blogposts on Open Government Data (I ended up doing =
a<BR>series... A=20
search on my blog for "Open Government Data" will point you =
to<BR>these if you=20
have an interest...<BR><BR>This was the first one (which "went viral" =
at the=20
time. (see the comments...<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/open-data-empowering-the=
-empowered-">http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/open-data-empowerin=
g-the-empowered-</A><BR>or-effective-data-use-for-everyone/<BR><BR>(I'm=20
currently in Brazil for the Open Government Partnership meeting at=20
the<BR>invitation of the International Development Research Centre =
(IDRC) but=20
I'll<BR>be back in Canada after Apr. 19 if you have an interest in =
pursuing=20
this<BR>discussion by =
relephone.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>Michael=20
Gurstein, Ph.D.<BR>Executive Director: Centre for Community =
Informatics=20
Research, Development<BR>and Training (CCIRDT) Vancouver, BC=20
CANADA<BR><BR>tel/fax: +1-604-602-0624<BR>email: <A=20
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#michaelgurstein<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A =
=
href=3D"civicaccess-discuss-bounces@civicaccess.ca">civicaccess-discuss-b=
ounces@civicaccess.ca</A><BR>[<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:civicaccess-discuss-bounces@civicaccess.ca">mailto:civicac=
cess-discuss-bounces@civicaccess.ca</A>]=20
On Behalf Of James<BR>McKinney<BR>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:39=20
PM<BR>To: civicaccess discuss<BR>Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] =
Comments:=20
Federal Open Government<BR>ActionPlan...<BR><BR><BR>Aaron Wherry of =
Maclean's=20
is asking for responses to the action plan<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"https://twitter.com/#!/aaronwherry/status/190473414530707456">htt=
ps://twitter.com/#!/aaronwherry/status/190473414530707456</A><BR><BR>His =
blog is widely read:<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www2.macleans.ca/category/blog-central/canada-blog/beyond-=
the-commons">http://www2.macleans.ca/category/blog-central/canada-blog/be=
yond-the-commons</A><BR>/<BR><BR>I=20
would recommend sending him any thoughts/reactions to the =
announcement.=20
He<BR>responds well to substance. According to this page<BR>(<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/08/17/roll-call/">http://www2.maclea=
ns.ca/2011/08/17/roll-call/</A>)=20
you can reach him at<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"aaron.wherry@macleans.rogers.com">aaron.wherry@macleans.rogers.co=
m</A>,=20
or just tweet him.<BR><BR>James<BR><BR>On 2012-04-12, at 3:48 PM, =
James=20
McKinney wrote:<BR><BR>> The action plan is quite short - the main =
content=20
is at this page:<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ap-pa04-eng.asp">http://open.gc.ca/=
open-ouvert/ap-pa04-eng.asp</A><BR>><BR>>=20
It is interesting that they are going to run a pilot to accept<BR>> =
electronic payment for ATI requests, as the requirement to pay =
by<BR>>=20
cheque has been a major barrier to anyone outside Canada =
filing<BR>>=20
requests. It should be noted that Canada is one of few countries =
that<BR>>=20
charges to file a request - most are either free or only =
charge<BR>>=20
processing fees.<BR>><BR>> On 2012-04-12, at 11:18 AM, Tracey P. =
Lauriault wrote:<BR>><BR>>> I just read this, and here are my =
quick=20
reflections:<BR>>><BR>>> Progress is being made, but with =
teeny=20
tiny steps.<BR>>><BR>>> Transparency:<BR>>> There is =
nothing=20
in there about transparency, which mean pipeline<BR>>> =
information will=20
still be inaccessible, administrative data are only<BR>>> =
alluded to,=20
when programs are cancelled (e.g. Canadian Foundation for<BR>>> =
Climate=20
and Atmospheric Sciences (CFCAS), CPRN) where do those =
data<BR>>> go so=20
I am not sure if access to HIFIS will ever be available. <BR>>>=20
Regulation can still be changed behind closed doors, cabinet =
memos<BR>>>=20
remain secret, and so on. Organizations like Centre for Law=20
and<BR>>> Democracy and Democracy Watch have been watching this =
closely=20
and<BR>>> they can better than I speak to that=20
issue.<BR>>><BR>>> Archiving Data:<BR>>> Nothing is =
said=20
about the preservation of data and information<BR>>> related to=20
cancelled programs, or scientific and research data in<BR>general. =
There=20
will be additional access to some archived material once<BR>clearance =
has been=20
removed, but nothing in the plan about the archiving =
and<BR>preservation of=20
data nor digitization. For example the Polar =
Environment<BR>Atmospheric=20
Research Laboratory (PEARL) (<A=20
href=3D"http://www.cfcas.org/PEARL/">http://www.cfcas.org/PEARL/</A>)=20
is<BR>being shut down, is scrambling to have their terrabytes of data=20
deposited in<BR>the Canadian Polar Data (<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.api-ipy.gc.ca/pg_IPYAPI_052-eng.html">http://www.api-i=
py.gc.ca/pg_IPYAPI_052-eng.html</A>)<BR>which=20
was funded by the International Polar Year. The scientists are=20
doing<BR>this almost gratis. But nothing was in place for =
Canadian=20
Policy Research<BR>Network (CPRN) (<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.cprn.org/index.cfm">http://www.cprn.org/index.cfm</A>)=
.=20
Fortunately in that Case<BR>because of two of Canada's top =
public policy=20
schools are at Carleton U, the<BR>Library chose to archive their site, =
otherwise, that material would have<BR>been lost. Where is the =
schoolnet=20
da<BR> ta? CAP data? there is not gc.ca website=20
archive.<BR>>><BR>>> Trusted Digital =
Repository<BR>>> There=20
is also nothing on a trusted digital repository nor is =
there<BR>>> any=20
mention about research data, (i.e.<BR>>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://rds-sdr.cisti-icist.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/news/data_summit_re=
port">http://rds-sdr.cisti-icist.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/news/data_summit_repo=
rt</A><BR>>>=20
.html), I like that citizens were listened to via an =
online<BR>>>=20
consultation, but I also have deep respect for Canada's =
expert<BR>>>=20
opinions on issues, and the"national approach to managing =
Canada's<BR>>>=20
research data" was such a document and Canadian research=20
librarians,<BR>>> researchers and big science data manages did=20
contribute to this, yet<BR>>> there is no mention of=20
it.<BR>>><BR>>> Gov. Information Library but what of =
Depository=20
Service Program: In<BR>>> terms of the Gov Information Library, =
that is=20
exciting but the<BR>>> Depository Service Program (DSP0<BR>(<A=20
=
href=3D"http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/programs/aboutDsp.html">http:/=
/publications.gc.ca/site/eng/programs/aboutDsp.html</A>)=20
already did<BR>that, and federal institutions by law were to deposit =
in these,=20
and also<BR>ensure that libraries across Canada disseminated =
government=20
information.<BR>Unfortunately, IT departments did not consider web=20
publications to be<BR>publications and therefore did not deposit web =
documents=20
there. For<BR>example, my favorite government program =
GeoConnections=20
only had 2-3<BR>documents in the Archives and no documents in the DSP =
and only=20
a couple in<BR>government libraries, and now that its side has been =
changed=20
due to<BR>accessibility, many documents were removed and who knows =
where they=20
went,<BR>but I can tell you their material did not go into their own =
Library=20
as I<BR>found more at Carleton U than the NRCan library! And =
that is one=20
of the<BR>good ones. I hope this works, but with CLF and =
accessiblity,=20
which<BR>documents will be in that =
libra<BR> ry?<BR>>><BR>>>=20
Record Keeping<BR>>> It is great to see record keeping back on =
the=20
table, however, that<BR>>> has been a TBS directive in =
place<BR>>>=20
(<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?section=3Dtext&id=3D=
16552">http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?section=3Dtext&id=3D=
16552</A>)<BR>>>=20
since 2009 while Library and Archives Canada has been =
providing<BR>>>=20
material on how to do that for much longer. Also, what kind=20
of<BR>>> enterprise system? Will Canadians be made aware =
of the=20
system being<BR>>> put in places? How robust is it? =
Is it=20
proprietary? Will Canadians<BR>>> be providing this new =
technology or=20
will it be a US company? Who was<BR>>> awarded the=20
Contract?<BR>>><BR>>> Administrative Data or =
PSI<BR>>> I=20
hope that "resource allocation and performance management<BR>>>=20
information" means administrative data or public sector=20
information<BR>>> and not just evaluation data. For =
example, how=20
many students receive<BR>>> canada student loans by province, =
would be=20
administrative data, or<BR>>> the HIFIS data I mentioned =
earlier, or=20
pipeline plans survey plans,<BR>>> and I wonder if that is what =
is meant=20
here? What about government<BR>>> procurement? Why =
would a=20
new term be used when internationally these<BR>>> other terms =
are=20
recognized and widely used.<BR>>><BR>>> =
Consultations:<BR>>>=20
It would be great if consultations also happened with experts =
and<BR>>>=20
that those consultations were open, the Research Data Canada=20
example<BR>provided above is one of them. There is also merit in =
round=20
tables on<BR>issues which is something the National Science Foundation =
in the=20
US does<BR>really well. I personally am not that excited about a =
twitter=20
summit, but I<BR>do appreciate the opportunity for meaningful =
dialogue.=20
Also, along with<BR>working with the public, what if we have =
concerns=20
about the pipeline or the<BR>cancellation of the census, will the =
government=20
actually listen? That too<BR>is a form of consultation and =
government=20
& public deliberation, which I have<BR>not yet heard much about. =
For=20
example, we will have open data, but what if<BR>we make discoveries =
with those=20
open data, how do we deliberate with =
the<BR>evidence.<BR>>><BR>>>=20
These are my quick observations, Harvey and I will go through =
the<BR>>>=20
material sent to us during the teleconferences and will use =
that<BR>>>=20
information to elaborate further. One of Harvey's points is=20
really<BR>>> important, where are the provinces, territories and =
municipalities. <BR>>> It is true that this is a federal =
initiative,=20
however, the OGP is<BR>>> about Canada, and only federal Canada =
and the=20
federal plan is being<BR>>> discussed and there have been no=20
consultations with provinces, and as<BR>>> we know, this is =
where land=20
registries and administrative data exist.<BR>>><BR>>>=20
Cheers<BR>>> t<BR>>><BR>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at =
9:58 AM,=20
Harvey Low <<A href=3D"HLOW@toronto.ca">HLOW@toronto.ca</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Hello everyone.<BR>>> =
>=20
<BR>>> > FYI - here's the link to the Action =
Plan.<BR>>> >=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/information-eng.asp">http://open.gc=
.ca/open-ouvert/information-eng.asp</A><BR>>>=20
> <BR>>> > As a Civil Society Representative at the Open=20
Government<BR>>> > Partnership Meeting in Brazil next week, =
Tracey=20
and I will be providing<BR>feedback from the calls we have had with =
some of=20
you and the feedback from<BR>this group.<BR>>> > <BR>>> =
>=20
Harvey Low<BR>>> > Civil Society Rep<BR>>> > =
Canadian=20
Council on Social Development<BR>>> > National Community Data =
Program<BR>>> > <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.ccsd.ca/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Dcate=
gory&layou">http://www.ccsd.ca/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&vie=
w=3Dcategory&layou</A><BR>>>=20
> t=3Dblog&id=3D53&Itemid=3D228&lang=3Den<BR>>> =
> <BR>>>=20
> <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>=20
--<BR>>> Tracey P. Lauriault<BR>>> =
613-234-2805<BR>>>=20
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