[Advisors] FW: you tube

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:30:37 -0300


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I had a chance to meet with Tony Clements in the somewhat more informal
context of a conference in Brasilia where he was presenting Canada's =
Open
Government Action Plan and I was doing a critique of sorts of doing Open
Government plans without having an associated policy of Inclusive =
Governance
http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/does-inclusion-matter-for-open-g=
ove
rnment-the-answer-is-very-much-indeed/ (tiny URL http://wp.me/pJQl5-9f )
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I took that opportunity to raise the issue of CAP with him and he was =
more
or less expecting it and had all of his arguments (those that have been
noted elsewhere in this discussion both from him and his fellow =
Harperites).
Based on that discussion I would be extremely surprised if they were to =
go
back on this decision -- they evidently were already receiving a lot of =
heat
on the issue but had closed ranks.
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One thing that did come up that I haven't seen elsewhere is that he made =
the
point, hard to disagree with, that CAP was seriously underfunded and =
really
couldn't do much of a job of anything given how modest were the =
resources
that had been made available in recent times.  I suggested that perhaps =
an
alternative and expanded program might thus be called for and that
discussion was left hanging as others then came in to say hello.
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Mike
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 -----Original Message-----
From: advisors-admin@tc.ca [mailto:advisors-admin@tc.ca] On Behalf Of =
Eric
Stackhouse
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:44 PM
To: 'TC Advisors'
Subject: [Advisors] FW: you tube



Hello everyone from a Town Hall meeting in Amherst last night, courtesy =
of
the Coordinator in Cumberland. It's a looooong answer from Conservative =
MP
Scott Armstrong but what is interesting is at the start of his response =
he
said he was speaking with the PMO about CAP. So the message is getting
through.

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http://youtu.be/UcOUn6KqwQU

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Eric

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  face=3DArial>I had a chance to meet with Tony Clements in the somewhat =
more=20
  informal context of a conference in Brasilia where he was presenting =
Canada's=20
  Open&nbsp;Government Action Plan and I was doing a critique of sorts =
of doing=20
  Open Government plans without having an associated policy of Inclusive =

  Governance &nbsp;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/does-inclusion-matter-fo=
r-open-government-the-answer-is-very-much-indeed/">http://gurstein.wordpr=
ess.com/2012/04/18/does-inclusion-matter-for-open-government-the-answer-i=
s-very-much-indeed/</A>&nbsp;(tiny=20
  URL <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://wp.me/pJQl5-9f">http://wp.me/pJQl5-9f</A>&nbsp;)</FONT></S=
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align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D702571214-19042012>I took that opportunity to raise the issue =
of CAP=20
  with him and he was more or less expecting it and had all of his =
arguments=20
  (those that have been noted elsewhere in this discussion both from him =
and his=20
  fellow Harperites).&nbsp; Based on that discussion I would be =
extremely=20
  surprised if they were to go back on this decision -- they evidently =
were=20
  already receiving a lot of heat on the issue but had closed=20
  ranks.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
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seen=20
  elsewhere is that he made the point, hard to disagree with, that CAP =
was=20
  seriously underfunded and really couldn't do much of a job of anything =
given=20
  how modest were the resources that had been made available in recent=20
  times.&nbsp; I suggested that perhaps an alternative and expanded =
program=20
  might thus be called for and that discussion was left hanging as =
others then=20
  came in&nbsp;to say hello.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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  [mailto:advisors-admin@tc.ca] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Eric=20
  Stackhouse<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:44 =
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  Advisors'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Advisors] FW: you=20
  tube<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Hello everyone =
from a Town=20
  Hall meeting in Amherst last night, courtesy of the Coordinator in =
Cumberland.=20
  It&#8217;s a looooong answer from Conservative MP Scott Armstrong but =
what is=20
  interesting is at the start of his response he said he was speaking =
with the=20
  PMO about CAP. So the message is getting =
through.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><A=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
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