[Advisors] At-Large Summit London (ATLAS) Preparation

[michael gurstein]

I guess my question has to do with my perception that ICANN seems to be
using its role (and the resources that accrue) in manning a major tollbooth
on the Information Highway to not just become a significant element in the
Internet policy ecology but to attempt to become the overall policy ecology
itself (1Net being the most obvious but by no means unique example).

The consequences of this I don't see as being particularly benign for anyone
except those who have accorded ICANN its current position and those who
benefit from this.

M 

-----Original Message-----
From: Garth Graham [mailto:garth.graham at telus.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:41 PM
To: Michael Gurstein; advisors advisors
Subject: Re: [Advisors] At-Large Summit London (ATLAS) Preparation

If you are raising an eyebrow on "within the ICANN context," I'd agree with
you.  ALS's are certainly supported within the framework of an agreement
that constrains what they can and are expected to do within ICANN.  See for
example:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2264679/naralo-mou-en-28jun
07.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1294827941000

But what ICANN has joined together does not forbid dalliance outside that
marriage of convenience.  What I meant was a couple of things simple, but
more than trivial, outside of ICANN.  NARALO's resources and engagement are
generating and sustaining interactions and interdependences (connections)
among individuals and organizations with similar interests.  That has to be
of value in surfacing issues and acting on them in other contexts.  And also
nothing stops ALAC/NARALO for pushing the limits of the [acceptable?] within
ICANN.

GG

On 2014-03-14, at 11:11 AM, michael gurstein wrote:

> Garth,
> 
> Below you say "NARALO is heading towards having significant capacity 
> to act as a node in an active network of public interest/ public trust 
> organizations concerned about issues of Internet use and governance".
> 
> This would appear to mean that ICANN (or at least ICANN 
> supported/associated
> formations) are (or should be) concerned with matters which are 
> currently rather beyond ICANN's specific mandate in the governance of 
> Internet "names and numbers" and more in the general area(s) of 
> Internet governance (for example privacy, access, cybercrime, even
taxation and so on.
> 
> Without arguing one way or the other on this could you explain 
> (particularly in the context of your current activities within the ICANN
context).
> 
> Tks,
> 
> M
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: advisors-bounces at tc.ca [mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca] On Behalf 
> Of Garth Graham
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:57 AM
> To: advisors advisors
> Subject: Re: [Advisors] At-Large Summit London (ATLAS) Preparation
> 
> This morning I learned that ALAC has received an ALS application from 
> Open Media <https://openmedia.ca/operate> signed by Reilly Yeo, 
> Managing Director.  That triggers a process of due diligence by ICANN 
> staff and an acceptance procedure. Once in, they'll be a member of 
> NARALO.  Given Open Media's broad base of support and crowd sourcing 
> skills, it would appear as if NARALO is heading towards having 
> significant capacity to act as a node in an active network of public 
> interest/ public trust organizations concerned about issues of Internet
use and governance.
> 
> GG
> 
> On 2014-03-12, at 5:25 PM, Marita Moll wrote:
> re: outreach -- I recently heard (through the newly forming 
> ISOC-Canada) that Alberta is about to be delisted as an ALAC 
> community.  The group that registered hasn't been active for years.  I 
> put James in touch with Glenn McKnight re: starting up an Alberta 
> group that would be active.  You (Garth) may also want to be part of that
discussion.
>> 
>> Other than that I don't have anything to add.  It does seem to be 
>> that it
> looks good for Canada to have as many participants here as possible.  
> At the moment there is Communautique, NS CAP program, PCNA, Alberta 
> Community Network Association (defunct I think), N-CAP, ISOC-Canada, 
> Canadian Association for Open Source, ISOC-Quebec, Privaterra and of 
> course TC (did I miss any Garth?).  Darlene (N-CAP) and Monique  
> (Communautique) and now Garth (TC) are very active.  ISOC-Canada also
intends to be a strong voice.
> I don't know who is active beyond that for the Canadian side.  
>