[Advisors] Governance, community, and complex adaptive systems

[Gary W Kenward]

James:

  Well stated. I wish I had your talent for exposition. 

  It is absolutely the role of the government to promote social and economic development. It is absolutely not the role of corporations, whether they care or not (people in corporations and share holders do care, but the current reality of being in business limits what a can be done through a corporation).

  As I said in my prior post, I would simply like to see the concerns kept separate. There is still a need for the Canadian government to adopt legislation that encapsulates Internet Governance issues like net neutrality, open access, etc. These are the rules defining the Internet as a transport service. Similar to the rules and regulations surrounding vehicular transport, which, with very few exceptions, restrict how the roads are used, not what they are used for.

   The philosophy behind the Internet architecture is very simple: provide a network that allows anyone to communicate with anyone else, everywhere in the world, using whatever application they choose. Make it open, accessible, transparent, neutral and uncensored. To achieve this, the architecture keeps the “what" at a safe distance. The Internet exists and has been successful because of these principles. There are many valid ethical, social and engineering reasons for changing these principles, but these changes are vehemently opposed by the IAB/IETF because they would compromise the fundamental objectives - and success - of the Internet. 

   Without regulatory protection of the fundamental principles of the Internet architecture, the ability to promote social and economic develop within communities will be jeopardized. (One way of managing the “ethics” of the ISPs is to ensure they provide a well defined service with clearly regulated properties). 

   In no way am I suggesting that the “ethical context” is not important. Quite the opposite. I believe that social and economic community development are best addressed in their own context. With consideration of the established context for Internet Governance according to the aforementioned Internet architecture principles.

 Of course, everything we’ve been discussing is far beyond what the Minister has identified in public statements. It is quite possible that our hopes for change are too far outside the purview of the Ministry of Heritage. 

 Gary

 On 2016.05.12, at 16:10, James Van Leeuwen <jvl at ventus.ca> wrote:
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> That’s a really important point Gary. 
> 
> The shift from non-commercial to commercial dominance of the Internet is the most powerful testament to its vast social and economic utility. 
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> The greatest challenge we face in realizing the *full* social and economic potential of the Internet is to ensure that the Internet is governed for exactly that purpose - just like we govern our roads, streets and highways and the rules for using them.
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> This is fundamentally an issue of ethical governance, which brings the challenge squarely into the context of societal governance - the point you were originally making.
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> There is absolutely no incentive for incumbent industry interests to advance a governance paradigm that is defensibly ethical, because it will undermine their fiduciary obligations to their shareholders. 
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> With the exception of SaskTel, there is no fiduciary obligation for incumbent network operators to respond ethically to social, political, technological, and environmental change that creates and destroys market opportunity.
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> If there were, we wouldn’t need an industry regulator.
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> Rather, most of our incumbents now have only a fiduciary obligation to capitalize on such change for the benefit of private shareholders, who generally don’t give a rat’s ass about unethical conduct as long as it remains unlikely that abusive corporations won’t be held to account for it. 
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> Discussing the future of Internet governance in an explicitly ethical context provides the most powerful leverage for the aforementioned challenge of developing leadership around community-centric governance, and the better we get at doing this, the more rapidly that leverage and leadership will emerge.
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> The most powerful argument we can make for ethical, community-centric governance is to highlight the rapid evolution of Internet use from non-commercial domination to commercial domination, which reflects the enormous social and economic potential of the Internet. 
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> James
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>> On May 12, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Gary W Kenward <garykenward at eastlink.ca <mailto:garykenward at eastlink.ca>> wrote:
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>> The definition Internet Governance is from the ISOC web site, so you should probably discuss it with them.
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>> That being said, ISOC’s involvement in other Internet issues is not restricted to governance. ISOC has been going through a transition in the last few years, largely driven by the growing representation from international members as the need to respond to by various attempts by telecommunications groups, notably the ITU, to change the nature of the Internet.
>> 
>> Finally, the “early days” I was referring were after the extension of the Internet into Canada and Europe. However, your discounting of the history ignores the point: the Internet moved from non-commercial to commercial use because of popular demand. Commercial services remain the primary application services used by the general population on the Internet.
>> 
>> Gary
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>>> On 2016.05.12, at 13:10, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gary,
>>>  
>>> I’m not sure how much I want to divert this discussion down the Internet Governance (IG) rabbit hole but your definition of IG and dare I say that of ISOC overall (or at least the narrowly technical interpretation of that definition) is severely out of date and ignores the on-rushing reality of the role and impact of the Internet in our world.  Equally, even ISOC in its actual interventions in IG discussions recognizes the limitations on this definition while regrettably continuously harking back to this whenever it suits their immediate purposes – as dare I say have you.
>>>  
>>> ICANN as the grand poobah of IG in the sphere that you are pointing to itself is embroiled in copyright and Intellectual Property issues, geo-political issues, even Human Rights issues.  ISOC itself chooses to have an involvement in broader issues of regulation and the policy apparatus that surrounds this and in fact more or less the entire range of matters that deal with the Internet.  (ISOC’s self-identified role in responding to the Digital Divide is as good an example of ISOC’s broader involvement as any.)
>>>  
>>> It may be securitizing to always refer back to the early days of the Internet when a small group of mostly US based engineers who all knew each other “managed” the Internet as their own private sandbox, but those days are long since passed.
>>>  
>>> M 
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>>> From: advisors-bounces at tc.ca <mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca> [mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca <mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca>] On Behalf Of Gary W Kenward
>>> Sent: May 12, 2016 8:02 AM
>>> To: James Van Leeuwen <jvl at ventus.ca <mailto:jvl at ventus.ca>>
>>> Cc: Telecommunities Advisors <advisors at tc.ca <mailto:advisors at tc.ca>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Advisors] Governance, community, and complex adaptive systems
>>>  
>>> James:
>>>  
>>>     Well said. 
>>>  
>>>     The role of industry is to maximize shareholder value. The role of academia is to perform research and provide post-secondary education. The role of regulators is to enforce existing legislation. None of these organizations have in their mandate, or their nature, to be community leaders. Do not fault the cat for being a cat.
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>>>     The role of the CRTC is defined in the Telecommunications and Broadcasting Acts. No where in those two pieces of 25 year old legislation is there any terminology that could be interpreted as giving the CRTC a mandate to provide leadership in supporting Internet communities within Canada. I am very encouraged by the public statement made by Hon. Mélanie Joly that she is willing to change these two pieces of legislation and the CRTC mandate (http://tinyurl.com/zwtg7k3 <http://tinyurl.com/zwtg7k3>). However, her emphasis at the time she made this statement was "to foster the creation of Canadian content across the country [and] also increase the international audience for Canadian creators”. Laudable goals perhaps, but it’s not clear that the issues of local community Internet services and media are in her line of sight. Hopefully, the CRTC hearings will bring the community issues to her attention.
>>>  
>>>    Again, I do not see this as primarily an Internet Governance issue. Canada's legislation needs to be brought into the 21st century by embracing the principles of Internet Governance. However, this will not, in itself, facilitate Internet communities within Canada.
>>>  
>>>   To clarify my position: Internet Governance, as defined by the Internet Society, is "refers to the processes that impact how the Internet is managed”. The Internet, as defined by the IAB, stops at the transport layer (TCP). It does not include the application services that are provided at the edge. For example, the WWW is not part of the Internet, it resides at the edge of the Internet and uses Internet services to exchange application content. This is not simply picayune semantics. The Internet community (ISOC, IAB, IETF) have fought hard over the years to keep the Internet separate from application services - their major opponents have been the telecommunications industry who have profited for decades from their monopoly created through the embedding of application services in network infrastructure. It is extremely important that this distinction be preserved.
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>>>   This distinction is extremely important with respect to distributed community media services. Internet Governance principles only ensure that all media services be provided the same data transport service. They do not address the creation of these media services. Nor do these principles state that lower cost Internet transport services be made available to communities. Indeed, such a provision on the part of an ISP would technically violate net neutrality.
>>>  
>>> Gary
>>>  
>>> As an addendum to my previous email: I realized after I had posted my prior message that the concept of the Internet being comprised of local communities is inaccurate and misleading. One of the amazing outcomes from the creation of the global Internet infrastructure is the emergence of communities that are geographically (and often culturally) diverse.
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>>> The capability to form geographically independent communities does not interfere with the creation of geographically localized communities. It is, however, important to recognized both realities in any Canadian Internet legislation or government policies. I suggest that it is also important that both realities be part of any conversation initiated by Telecommunities Advisors.
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>>>> On 2016.05.12, at 05:31, James Van Leeuwen <jvl at ventus.ca <mailto:jvl at ventus.ca>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Gary writes:
>>>>  
>>>> "The question is then, what is missing from Internet Governance to support more promote local, not-for-profit community centric activity?"
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>>>>  
>>>> In a word, leadership. 
>>>>  
>>>> Leadership that effectively promotes and represents communities as a/the key stakeholders in governance of the Internet, and that persuasively presents the benefit case and a workable model for community-centric Internet governance.
>>>>  
>>>> Industry will never provide such leadership, and senior governments lack the competency and legitimacy to provide it. 
>>>>  
>>>> It falls to communities themselves to provide such leadership, but while there has been progress in some communities, the vast majority are still failing to produce it.
>>>>  
>>>> Picking up on Michael’s closing question, the predominance of opinion about the changing nature of Internet governance and community therefore resides *outside* of communities themselves.
>>>>  
>>>> It resides in academia, which in today's Canada is (sadly) a hindrance to its migration into communities. 
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>>>>  
>>>> To whom will our community leaders turn when seeking to educate themselves about the Internet and its relevance to the social and economic development of their communities?
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>>>> Hardly any will turn to academia, out of fear of looking stupid and incompetent or because they have no idea who to talk to. 
>>>>  
>>>> A few will turn to the regulator, which has no mandate to provide clear and decisive guidance to communities because of the limitations of their mandate. 
>>>>  
>>>> Most will therefore turn to industry or government, who will respond with either self-serving bullshit and bafflegab (industry) or uncertainty, indecision and bafflegab (government). 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Telecom infrastructure and services haven't been in the wheelhouse of most municipal governments for a century or more, and the hard reality is that the vast majority of people we elect to municipal office don’t actually want it in their wheelhouse. 
>>>>  
>>>> Last summer, at the request of our region’s rookie CRTC Commissioner, I coordinated an engagement with half a dozen community leaders here in southwest Alberta.
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>>>> None of them had a clue that there were straightforward processes in place for engaging the CRTC to seek interpretation and clarification of regulations, and for lodging complaints about industry policies and practices.
>>>>  
>>>> Later in the summer, our Commissioner delivered a presentation to a gathering of 80+ community leaders from across the province outlining what the CRTC can and cannot do, and detailing the processes for engaging the CRTC in relation to broadband development and markets for services. 
>>>>  
>>>> At the same event, these community leaders were presented with a precise and concise encapsulation of their options for responding to the issue of infrastructure and market development.
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>>>> To the best of my knowledge, only one of those 80+ community leaders has since given serious consideration to taking serious responsibility for infrastructure and market development in their community. 
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>>>>  
>>>> This is why municipal organizations like the Federation of Canadian Municipalities and their provincial counterparts have never taken up the cause, even though it fits squarely into their mandate to do so. 
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>>>> And this is why, for the time being, I agree with Michael’s more pessimistic perspective on Internet governance becoming more community-centric any time soon.
>>>>  
>>>> Municipal leaders will not accept responsibility for something they know little or nothing about, and very few will learn what they need to learn.
>>>>  
>>>> It simply doesn’t matter what makes the most sense, when the people who need to make sense of it can’t or won’t even try. 
>>>>  
>>>> Until there has been a generational shift in municipal and community leadership, most communities will remain at the mercy of corporate self-interest and government fecklessness. 
>>>>  
>>>> That said, the 'complex system’ of Canadian society will struggle to adapt as long as our current generation of municipal leadership fails to mentor and make space for a new generation of leadership.
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>>>> The most pragmatic question I think we can ask is, “How do we develop the community leadership we need?”.
>>>>  
>>>> JvL
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>>>>> On May 11, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Gary W Kenward <garykenward at eastlink.ca <mailto:garykenward at eastlink.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> On the other hand….communities have always been self-organizing. Self-organizing systems that are not intrinsically chaotic or divergent have attractors around which the system converges. Resource sharing, mutual protection, social interaction are clearly components of the attractor that defines the self-organization of communities. 
>>>>> Greed and narcissism (arguably, greed is a manifestation of narcissism) form part of the human psyche and part of the social interaction. The creation of hierarchical societies, dominated by those who are willing to invest personal time and energy as well as risk the consequences of failure to feed their narcissism have historically been a major component of the attractor around which communities have self-organized. 
>>>>> Given this assertion, the issue is not whether or not communities are self-organizing, they always have been. This is evidenced by the evolutionary emergence of the nation state from pre-historical roaming tribes, which in turn were self-organizing communities convergent around hunting, foraging and self-protection. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Internet ecosystem is a self-organization of self-organized communities. The Internet architecture was designed to support self-organization from its inception. While some entities have historically been slow to catch on to the nature and impact of this design principle  (e.g. telcos) , I suggest that the concept is now pretty well universally recognized. The actual disconnect lies in what constitutes acceptable properties for the attractors around which self-organization occurs. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which brings us back to Internet Governance. Once upon at time (back in the 1980’s commercial use of the Internet was unacceptable. Individuals and organizations distributing commercial material via the Internet could (and did) lose access privileges. The Internet ecosystem was comprised of self-organizing communities that formed around shared interests: science, engineering, math, comic books, humour, collectibles, etc. etc. (c.f. USENET).
>>>>> This situation obviously changed, primarily with the emergence of the WWW. With commercialization came the opportunity to generate profit from the Internet. Pandora’s box was open. The attractor for the self-organization of Internet communities was shifted towards capitalism which rewards narcissism.(Arguably, with the Internet’s originating from DARPA, the influence of capitalism has always been present to some degree.)
>>>>> The shift towards commercial use of the Internet wasn’t the consequence of state or corporate impositions. Non-commercial individuals and organizations either turned a blind eye towards commercialization or actively promoted it. The general population of users like these commercial services and wanted more. Internet commercialization created the gaggle of telco’s, cellco’s and cableco’s that everyone likes to beat upon. However, it also created mega-corporations like Cisco, Amazon, eBay, Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft and so on. Massive oligarchies that came to exist because of the over-whelming popularity of their products and services and because the Internet ecosystem provides an attractive flow of capital from consumer to corporation. 
>>>>> Whether commercialization of the Internet should have been allowed or not is, at this point, immaterial. Arguably, commercialization has been a major factor in driving much of the Internet growth and is now an embedded component of the Internet ecosystem and the attractors around which local communities self-organize. 
>>>>> The real governance question is how to re-direct the self-organization of the Internet ecosystem towards alternative attractors. Or more realistically, how to promote local, not-for-profit community centric attractors that can co-exist with the existing commercial attractors. Much of the current Internet architecture and policy frameworks are structured to support these attractors: e.g. net neutrality, open standards, transparency, opposition to Internet censorship, end-to-end principle etc. The question is then, what is missing from Internet Governance to support more promote local, not-for-profit community centric activity?
>>>>> In my view, this promotion of alternative local, not-for-profit community centric activity is not an Internet Governance issue, but one of social policy, which falls under the purview of elected governments.
>>>>> Garth, I enjoyed reading your paper. Thank you for sharing it.
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016.05.10, at 15:20, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>> wrote:> > Interesting and important paper Garth and worthy of a much more extensive commentary (and rebuttal) than I'm currently available to provide.> > Let me just make a few points...> > I think you have made the up and down--individual to global argument extremely well and captured the necessary linkages that follow given the assumptions that you have made.  As well, I'm persuaded by (without re-reading) your critique of Quilligan in the context of Ostrom.  > > Where I disagree or rather have a quite different problematic re: my approach to these issues is that you have what I think is an extremely optimistic perspective on how the Internet and its overall relationships to governance are evolving and will evolve. The overall problem with your analysis seems to me that you completely ignore both the theory of power and the increasingly oppressive reality of power  (and concentration of power) in the Interneted society and polity -- national and global.  > > The paper seems to argue that there is some linear autonomous process of evolution in the local and the global polity which is founded on a principle of "autonomous individuals" interacting in a manner so as to realize Internet enabled communities of these autonomous individuals (or at least the elements of their autonomous being that the individuals choose to share with their (multiple?) shared communities).  This evolution is seen as necessary and benign in all aspects including its likely outcomes. Arguments concerning the possible independence of this evolution or the contribution of the likely outcome to overall human well-being are presented as so 20th century and de-legitimized as being associated with one "ism" or other. Thus we are, whether we know it (or want it) or not, moving into the best of all possible worlds.> > I disagree with Garth in several areas.  First while I agree that the autonomous individual (networked individualist) may be the modal form of identity in the networked society I see this as a problem and something to be resisted rather than something to be celebrated. As I argued in my little book "What is Community Informatics" the networked identity is a weakened identity and one which is unable to resist the overwhelming force of the State and now the even more overwhelming force of Internet enabled corporations.  I see communities as the place where individuals are able to recreate their wholeness and potentially realize their power through the strength of solidarity and through being enabled by technology. > > As well, I see that there are active forces in the world and including and particularly those in the Internet ecology which are anything but benign; and who are looking to achieve monopolies of technical, intellectual and ultimately political power which it is their intention to use in the narrowest and most damaging of selfishness and self-interest.  > > To my mind one can either adopt a best of all possible world's position of passivity in the face of what I see as multiple on-rushing catastrophes or one can attempt in whatever way one can with whatever resources one can muster to find ways to confront and defuse these trends.> > M> > -----Original Message-----> From: advisors-bounces at tc.ca <mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca> [mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca <mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca>] On Behalf Of Garth Graham> Sent: May 10, 2016 8:22 AM> To: advisors <advisors at tc.ca <mailto:advisors at tc.ca>>> Subject: [Advisors] Governance, community, and complex adaptive systems> > Here's latest in my ongoing attempts to reframe the Internet Governance debate by reference to the changing nature of governance.  In the process of thinking my way forward, I’ve also evolved my understanding of what community networking actually means.  This article encompasses some of that shift.> > Garth Graham.  Cooperating community connections: A changing political reality.  The Journal of Community InformaticsVol 12, No 1 (2016).> http://www.ci-journal.net/index.php/ciej/article/view/1295 <http://www.ci-journal.net/index.php/ciej/article/view/1295>> > Abstract: Community Informatics has declared that the global is a federation of locals. James Quilligan has written an essay to the effect that applying such a definition of global requires a world institution of democratic governance. Some members of the community of community informatics researchers have come to a similar conclusion. This essay outlines an alternative interpretation based on complex adaptive systems theory, and with consequent results for a different definition of the individual, the community and their interdependence. 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