<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>How is ISOC Canada any more open then CIRA?<br><br><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">_________</span><span style="font-size: 13pt; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">_________</span><span style="font-size: 13pt; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">_________</span><span style="font-size: 13pt; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">_________</span><span style="font-size: 13pt; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">__</span><div>Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: GillSans-Light;">The information contained in this document is private and confidential. This document is not to</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: GillSans-Light;">be copied, printed or re-distributed without the explicit permission of the author.</span></div></div></div><div><br>On Sep 8, 2014, at 15:53, Garth Graham <<a href="mailto:garth.graham@telus.net">garth.graham@telus.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>On 2014-09-05, at 11:21 AM, Marita Moll wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>As a member of the ISOC Public Policy Committee, I am looking for feedback on issues that should be on ISOC-Canada's agenda. This is a new organization and a new committee. We can have an impact. We do have people on this list who have been participating nationally and internationally in Internet public policy issues for some time. So, I would be pleased to bring your concerns to this committee. If the divisions (and the language used) are confusing, just ignore them, just list policy issues that concern you.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-- broad public policy issues with the Canadian Internet ecosystem at this time?</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>1. Many nation states now have national Internet Governance Forums that feed into the UN's Internet Governance Forums, and other IG discussions. Many of those IGFs are open (or, to follow the current acceptable under certain highly qualified circumstances phrase, use the multistakeholder model). Canada does not. And, although CIRA seemed to be making a start, I wouldn't qualify what they are doing now as even a discussion, never mind open! Of course, this issue is already on ISOC Canada's agenda. So I only mention it here to note that it's a TC agenda item also.</span><br><span></span><br><span>2. Community ownership and control of open fibre optic networks, an essential element of community development capacity in a digital economy, is completely impossible within the the framework of Canada's market-based telecommunications strategy. TC has consistently pointed this out in every national discussion that ever occurred. It would be nice to ave some real allies that understood the point, then implications and the long term consequences. </span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-- broad public policy issues within ICANN, either as generated by ICANN's policies or its activities</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>My thoughts on this are on record at:</span><br><span></span><br><span>A DARK MIRROR OF INTERNET USE Garth Graham, July 11, 2014</span><br><span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48347119/To%20account.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1405373073000&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48347119/To%20account.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1405373073000&api=v2</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>TAKING INTERNET GOVERNANCE ECOLOGY AT ITS WORD: Garth Graham June 10, 2014</span><br><span><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48343654/ecology%20realized.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1402436268000&api=v2">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48343654/ecology%20realized.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1402436268000&api=v2</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>GG</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Advisors mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Advisors@tc.ca">Advisors@tc.ca</a></span><br><span><a href="http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors">http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>