<div dir="ltr">Hi Marita,<div><br></div><div>I was hoping we could somehow count our constituency. It would speak volumes to what we advocate. Others count their supporters to show the strength behind their messages. Why not us?</div><div><br></div><div>I think the data is what we need to support what we advocate. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm not an expert but I have noticed for example, that Ontario asked the public to vote on what data should be openly available.</div><div><a href="https://www.ontario.ca/page/sharing-government-data" target="_blank">https://www.ontario.ca/page/sharing-government-data</a></div><div><br></div><div>Voting is closed. But just as an example how much of the Government of Ontario's business is now done online with the expectation that its citizens are able to participate in that way. And how much tax money collected by the Government of Ontario has been spent (and where was it spent) to equip that public - especially those marginalized - to connect and access so they can participate? </div><div><br></div><div>Once the data is made available then there are programmers who will develop apps to make sense of it in ways that regular folks can understand. Alberta is challenging users to submit apps that make a difference in that way. <a href="http://open.alberta.ca/" target="_blank">http://open.alberta.ca/</a></div><div><br></div><div>These are opportunities to show where government can be more strategic when it makes decisions.</div><div><br></div><div>David</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Marita Moll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" target="_blank">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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Thanks David. I think our constituency is quite large, actually. We
can't count it -- but every one of us is in contact with many
like-minded people and have influence at many different levels. I
really believe that, through our continued discussion and interventions
re: Internet policy, we punch way over our weight. <br>
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The Open Data report, to which you have provided a link below,
describes the Canadian situation with respect to open data and digital
literacy as follows:<br>
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"This commitment supports development of tools, training resources, and
other initiatives to help citizens acquire the essential skills needed
to access digital information. Although this commitment is important to
reduce the digital gap, division of powers in Canada limit the federal
government’s power over education in provinces. Furthermore, this
commitment does not tackle the fact that many citizens and civil
society organizations lack the technology needed to work with data. To
improve digital literacy, other commitments should address the access
to technology."<br>
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Trouble is, I am not sure how to interact with this project or what we
could do. If someone knows more about this than I do and can offer
some suggestions, they would be welcome. <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for your efforts on this submission Marita.
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<div>A couple of questions for us to ponder:</div>
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<div>How large a constituency, when including like-minded groups, do
you think are represented by this, and future opportunities for TC to
submit?</div>
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<div>What opportunities are there to increase the quantity of data
related to our arena of interest? More Open Data could possibly more
accurately support our positions in future but only if the data exists.
Canadians often look south (ie Pew) to find supporting references.</div>
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<div>BTW this just came into my mailbox:</div>
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<div>On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:56 PM, James McKinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamespetermckinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamespetermckinney@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote in
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">As part of the Open Government
Partnership, the Independent Reporting Mechanism researcher, Mary
Francoli, has published her evaluation of the government’s progress on
its commitments. The report is now open for comment:</span><br style="font-size:12.8px">
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<a href="http://www.opengovpartnership.org/node/8597" rel="noreferrer" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://www.opengovpartnership.org/node/8597</a><br style="font-size:12.8px">
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<span style="font-size:12.8px">See also her piece in the Hill
Times: </span><a href="http://www.hilltimes.com/opinion/2016/02/08/open-government-at-a-crossroad-canada-needs-better-funding-and-access-to-information/45138" rel="noreferrer" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://www.hilltimes.com/opinion/2016/02/08/open-government-at-a-crossroad-canada-needs-better-funding-and-access-to-information/45138</a><br style="font-size:12.8px">
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<div>For example, page 7 (English version) of the report relates to
digital literacy.</div>
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<div>David Murdoch</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Marita Moll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" target="_blank">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>></span>
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I have commitment tomorrow, and since things always go wrong when you
leave them to the last minute, I have just submitted our comment letter
to the CRTC.<br>
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In a nutshell -- yes, we think broadband belongs in the basic service
basket, the minimum speeds for uploading and downloading need to be
revised, we ask that the CRTC support community-based broadband
initiatives and find new ways of funding broadband as public
infrastructure.<br>
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Thanks to those of you (you know who you are) who helped put this
together. I attach a pdf of the document. I will ask Ian to post it
on our website.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Marita<br>
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