<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Sorry, was talking about CIRA’s lack of governance transparency. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">JvL</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 10, 2018, at 11:44 PM, Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class="">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">James, you are talking
        about the ICANN policy initiative -- Alyssa will be in Barcelona
        and CIRA is very conscious of this. The way ICANN works though,
        CIRA can have little impact on this. Country codes like .ca are
        already set aside. Policies around the new general top level
        domains are decided through discussions encompassing the entire
        community. In the end, if civil society and business can't come
        up with a good plan, I think government reps will step in -- but
        this would be highly unpopular. Like the UN, ICANN tries to work
        by consensus. It's very hard........</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">Marita</font><br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2018 7:20 AM, James Van
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      <div class="">This sounds like a topic to take up with Alyssa
        Moore, CIRA’s new Senior Policy & Advocacy Advisor. <br class="">
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        <div class="">I think the sooner it’s on her radar, the better.</div>
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        <div class="">Happy to reach out to her if everyone thinks it’s a good
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            <div class="">On Oct 10, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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                    serif">That is true Peter. Both Brian Beaton and
                    Kerry Brown are on the community investment fund
                    evaluation committee. I forgot to mention Kerry in
                    my last e-mail, but yes, that's two evaluators on
                    the team who will be looking at applications from a
                    community networking perspective. <br class="">
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                    serif">Something most people here don't know (it
                    took me by surprise!) is that CIRA directors have to
                    sign a non-disclosure agreement -- so no information
                    flows out of board meetings at all. Minutes are
                    vague. It is pretty much of a black box. Some people
                    have tried unsuccessfully to bring some openness.
                    But it would take a major bottom up effort coming
                    from members to change that. There sure was not any
                    movement in that direction during my term.<br class="">
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                    serif">ICANN, on the other hand, could not be more
                    open. Absolutely everything is on the public record
                    and all meetings are open. So, you will be hearing
                    from me about what is going on there.  I will be
                    attending the ICANN AGM in Barcelona which starts on
                    Oct. 20. Much of the discussion is quite esoteric
                    and technical but there are some areas that are easy
                    to relate to -- for example current  rounds of
                    discussions about geonames at the top level --
                    whether or not some categories of names should be
                    protected in the next round of new gTLDs (generic
                    top level domains -- .com, .biz, .berlin, etc.).
                    Mind you, everything takes a long time. The dispute
                    about who gets to control .amazon (amazon the
                    company or the group of 8 countries through which
                    this river flows) is still not settled. <br class="">
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                    serif">Stay tuned</font></p><p class=""><font class="" face="Times New Roman, Times,
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/9/2018 6:23 PM, Peter
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                  you probably deserve the break!  so good news for you
                  <div class="">not so great for “us”</div>
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                  <div class="">but we have many ways to keep an eye on
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                            Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>>
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                                  Roman, Times, serif">Thanks to
                                  everyone here for their support for my
                                  candidacy during the CIRA elections.
                                  It was not my turn this time -- and
                                  one always has to expect such
                                  surprises with elections.  I will
                                  continue to do whatever I can to raise
                                  the profile on communities online in
                                  whatever fora I am engaged in. For the
                                  next year, it will be through my
                                  position on the At-large council at
                                  ICANN and the steering committee for
                                  the Canadian Internet Governance
                                  Forum.</font></p><p class=""><font class="" face="Times New
                                  Roman, Times, serif">One of our
                                  colleagues, Brian Beaton, is currently
                                  on the CIRA community investment fund
                                  evaluation team. And I know Brian will
                                  keep reminding everyone that
                                  communities have many needs that are
                                  sometimes not apparent to those who
                                  sit around these tables. <br class="">
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