<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Sorry, was talking about CIRA’s lack of governance transparency. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">JvL</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 10, 2018, at 11:44 PM, Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class="">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">James, you are talking
about the ICANN policy initiative -- Alyssa will be in Barcelona
and CIRA is very conscious of this. The way ICANN works though,
CIRA can have little impact on this. Country codes like .ca are
already set aside. Policies around the new general top level
domains are decided through discussions encompassing the entire
community. In the end, if civil society and business can't come
up with a good plan, I think government reps will step in -- but
this would be highly unpopular. Like the UN, ICANN tries to work
by consensus. It's very hard........</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">Marita</font><br class="">
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<div class="">This sounds like a topic to take up with Alyssa
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serif">That is true Peter. Both Brian Beaton and
Kerry Brown are on the community investment fund
evaluation committee. I forgot to mention Kerry in
my last e-mail, but yes, that's two evaluators on
the team who will be looking at applications from a
community networking perspective. <br class="">
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serif">Something most people here don't know (it
took me by surprise!) is that CIRA directors have to
sign a non-disclosure agreement -- so no information
flows out of board meetings at all. Minutes are
vague. It is pretty much of a black box. Some people
have tried unsuccessfully to bring some openness.
But it would take a major bottom up effort coming
from members to change that. There sure was not any
movement in that direction during my term.<br class="">
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serif">ICANN, on the other hand, could not be more
open. Absolutely everything is on the public record
and all meetings are open. So, you will be hearing
from me about what is going on there. I will be
attending the ICANN AGM in Barcelona which starts on
Oct. 20. Much of the discussion is quite esoteric
and technical but there are some areas that are easy
to relate to -- for example current rounds of
discussions about geonames at the top level --
whether or not some categories of names should be
protected in the next round of new gTLDs (generic
top level domains -- .com, .biz, .berlin, etc.).
Mind you, everything takes a long time. The dispute
about who gets to control .amazon (amazon the
company or the group of 8 countries through which
this river flows) is still not settled. <br class="">
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you probably deserve the break! so good news for you
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Roman, Times, serif">Thanks to
everyone here for their support for my
candidacy during the CIRA elections.
It was not my turn this time -- and
one always has to expect such
surprises with elections. I will
continue to do whatever I can to raise
the profile on communities online in
whatever fora I am engaged in. For the
next year, it will be through my
position on the At-large council at
ICANN and the steering committee for
the Canadian Internet Governance
Forum.</font></p><p class=""><font class="" face="Times New
Roman, Times, serif">One of our
colleagues, Brian Beaton, is currently
on the CIRA community investment fund
evaluation team. And I know Brian will
keep reminding everyone that
communities have many needs that are
sometimes not apparent to those who
sit around these tables. <br class="">
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