Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:25:38 +0200 (EET)
   From: Jei <jei@cc.hut.fi>
Subject: Confirmed CIA Involvement in 9/11 (fwd)

--http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html

Former German Defence Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11

I heard this intervew on Alex Jones Comercial Short Wave Program, A Week
ago, Which also airs on many AM & FM comercial radio stations. (12172
KHZ  8 to 11 AM EST)

This Man was the equivalent of Collin  Powell or Condi Rice in Germany.

Long but worthwhile.

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Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11:


Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow


Please understand that this is a transcript made directly from a live
radio interview. It may not conform to exemplary standards of grammar.
Mr. Von Buelow's first language is German.


Alex Jones: All right my friends. We are already into the third and final
hour of this global transmission against tyranny.  And, in the last hour
we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order and of course father
of Mel Gibson, on talking about the different key issues.  In this hour,
we are joined by Andreas von Bulow and he was the federal Minister of
Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, been in the
German government since the 70s.  And up until just a few years ago he
was also the Minister of Technology and he has written a book that
according to Reuters is the best seller in Germany that translates into
'9 11 and the CIA.'  And he's not the only German minister who has said
we are looking at world fascism here and a powerful military industrial
complex institution engineering terror attacks to scare us into
submission.  And, Andre von Bulow, err Andreas von Bulow, we are so
honored to have a man of your stature and obvious intelligence and your
courage on this show. Thank you for joining us. Andreas von Bulow: Hello
and it's wonderful speaking, yes.


AJ: Uh, we're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a
longer segment but for those who just joined us, tell us a little bit
more about yourself and your book please.


AvB: Well I...I have spent over twenty-five years in politics and now I
am out.  And in the end I was Minister of Technology before I was
Secretary of Defense.  Then I had to deal in a commission on East-West
transactions about the secret service of East Germany.  And this was very
interesting inside story because of the Western side doing deals
violating the laws in Eastern Eur, err, East Germany, European Community
and the United States.  It was always two parts dealing with East and
West and this bought me a lot of insights in the secret service business.


AJ: And in fact I remember reading about the huge investigations you did
that was massive international headlines concerning the Stasi and how
different governments had actually been working with these people.  If
you would like you are of course welcome to get into that as well. Again
folks, the equivalent secretary of defense, minister of defense of
Germany, and of course technology, the head of that.  Just absolutely
amazing.  Your best selling book, and I wish there was an English
translation because I would certainly buy one.  My wife does read
German.  But please, tell us about your book.


AvB: Well I was writing another book and then 9 11 happened.  And it was
strange to me watching- we all were horrified what was going on and said
well that's impossible, how could a crew of people manage do such
horrible things?  At the first hours, we didn't know who was it, then
within hours it came out that probably Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was
behind it. And then within two or three days these 19 people came out.
And my objection was- my looking at it- to whom does it bring good?  And
I found out that it is rather damaging to the Islamic world and perhaps
it might be not only be a terrorist attack but perhaps it might be a
covert operation.  I watched the scenery, what was going on, what the
American government-


AJ: Minister, minister, we've got to break; we'll be back in three
minutes.  Absolutely, we'll go into this in great detail.  We are honored
to have you.  We're talking to Andreas von Bulow.  We'll be back. (Fade
to bumper music) (Commercial Break)


AJ: That's right my friends it's eight minutes ten seconds into this 3rd
hour of global transmission.  I am so honored to have on Andreas von
Bulow former German defense minister, head of their defense department
and of course until just a few years ago, head of their technology system
which is, that is a very high level post, just as high level as defense
minister there in Deutschland.  And he's written a best selling book and
I've read some quotes out of it that have been translated into English.
And the title translated is '911 and the CIA.'  And he lays out the
evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks.
Also we have lined up Michael Micher. And he of course was the English
environmental minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud.  He has
written articles saying that if they didn't carry it out, they certainly
funded and allowed them to take place.  So, if you've got a brain, it's
clear, and Mr. von Bulow, very intelligent individual has gone over
this.  So, sir, you've said that on the day of the event you began to
look at it, you began to research it.  And, from your specific expertise
in intelligence and military and technology, you know heading up entire
sectors of the world's third largest economy.  Please discuss for us your
research and how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9 11.


AvB: Err, 9 11, I just watched the scenery.  And I said there must have-
gone something very [wrong].  I watched the TV for example and in the
same minute that the TV showed the planes driving into the World Trade
Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing.  And a few
days later one could find out that this was fake.  It was made by a TV
crew of the defense ministry in Israel and they gave candies to the
people and they laughed about it.  And, nobody told it.  And the question
for me was who brought this TV stuff right in time into the national
networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on.  And then we look for the,
the story came out that this had been done by bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda
and these 19 people of Muslim background, which did this.  And you could
watch the Persian journalist, and nobody showed up.  Not one Arabic name
was showing up there.  And then one is interested to see video because
all these 19 passengers must have passed the video, a lot of video
cameras in Dallas, and New York, and Logan in Boston, and Portland in the
North.  You don't get this stuff.  And then we're looking for the black
boxes and we don't get them.  And the story how these, these World Trade
Center buildings broke down, they were constructed against an approach by
airplanes.  And, the firemen of New York, they were able to come to the
floor where the fires were burning, and they said, the fire commander
said he needed two teams, small, to fight these fires and then it's
finished.  So the heat, it is impossible that the heat was as high as it
has been written in the papers and in all the media.


AJ: And then, and then the feds declared that all firefighter tapes
malfunctioned, turns out that wasn't true; we've got copies of them. And
it did say that the firefighters said the fires were out or almost out.
There is video of people standing in the holes of the buildings with no
fire around them.  And we're going to go over the evidence that's in your
book, sir, and why you came to these educated conclusions.


AvB: Yeah.


AJ: But, first I want to ask you: have you heard the new developments,
the owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that they
blew Building Seven up.  The forty-seven story building that wasn't even
hit by an aircraft.  This just broke two weeks ago, have you heard this?


AvB: Sure, I have heard this.  I follow the whole scenery. Normally, it's
coming out in Germany, but it's coming out in your country.  It's a
fascinating background to, to do research via Internet because all this
stuff is broadly spread over the Internet. So it's very easy to follow,
but in the main media you don't get to hear about this.


AJ: Well tell you what, later this hour, it's only three minutes of audio
clips, we will air from the PBS documentary 'America Rebuilding,' where
they admit they blew up WTC 7.  Now, that's important because they said
that building fell from fire even though it wasn't hit by a plane.  And
now, he slips up and says we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then the
mainstream media just ignores that.  This is a public admission, sir.


AvB: Yeah, yeah especially that the CIA headquarters in New York was in,
was within this building.  I think the- how do you call it- the emergency
center for the governor, the major, err, mayor was-


AJ: Mayor and governor.


AvB: -mayor was in this building.  So, it was not hit by a plane, and the
fire was very low.  And the surrounding steel constructions were left
over and didn't collapse.  But, the Building 7 collapsed in late
afternoon at 5 o' clock I think.


AJ: Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attacks sir,
out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one
fell swoop.


AvB: This is one theory, it might be.  It's convincing but one has to get
the whole proof.  But the problem is that the elements for proof are
destroyed.


AJ: Also-


AvB: You will find them in Japanese cars and in ships of the American
Navy.


AJ: Also, sir, we have NORAD standing down for an hour and twenty five
minutes but when we had the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for
fifteen minutes, he was surrounded in eighteen minutes by five F-16s so
why did NORAD stand down?


AvB: Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 more than
60 times.  That, fighter[s] went up to clear what has been done to
airplanes that showed some irregularities.  At 9 11, four planes for two
hours were able to drive around, fly around even one hour in the
direction going toward the west and then turn around and then comeback.
The military air force was not able to interdict them. It's
[un]imaginable.  And the whole story is totally unclear what happened
between the Federal Aviation Agency (Administration) and NORAD.


AJ: Absolutely, now I don't know if you've seen the associated press but
the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Center that day
of flying jets into buildings in New York and DC.  My internal sources
inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them have said on this
show that they were told to stand down because it was quote 'just a
drill.'  That's how you get the good military to stand down; you tell
them it's just a drill.  And, that drill was going on at 830 in the
morning.  Is that not obvious, sir?


AvB: It's quite obvious, yeah.  It's quite, it's so strange and the most
strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white book
which is documenting everything.  If you are looking for the timetable
for example you have to make a medium between two or three or five
newspapers and radio and TV announcements.  So everything is unclear.  On
the other hand, the American government is running as the call it a world
war against possibly sixty nations without really showing the background
of 9/11.  It's- for me, it's impossible.


AJ: Now by that they admit that nine of the nineteen hijackers, the BBC
says seven but it's nine, are still alive.  Bin Laden has not been
convicted, bin Laden is known CIA, you've got [George H. W.] Bush meeting
with the head bin Laden that morning in DC at the Ritz Carleton, you've
got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence, meeting with
the House and Senate chairs of the intelligence committee at 8:30 that
morning, his second trip in his life to the United States.  You've got
the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the credit cards of the supposed
hijackers.  I mean, sir, you start- you've got public officials, Mayor
Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff told not to fly to New York that
day.  That's all admitted; what do you say to that?


AvB: Well, it's all admitted.  So for me, since the official version-
it's not credible at all, it's totally incredible.  The second solution
for me is a covert operation.  And this is a way to influence, to
brainwash the American people into long, long, ongoing conflict with the
Muslim world and all that you get to, for example the oil companies, the
last oil reserves which we need for the next decades before the oil age
is going out.  And probably behind this is a geopolitical thinking that
finally China has to be taken out.  China is too big and you have to be
able to- this is put down in the New American Century, which has been
written by a lot of people who are now in government like Cheney, like
Rumsfeld and others.


AJ: And now, sir, we've got to break.  We're going to get into the
Project for a New American Century and Operation Northwoods.  Were you
aware of a US government plan to carry out 9 11 style attacks?


AvB: You mean, Northwoods?


AJ: Yes, sir.


AvB: Yeah sure I know.


AJ: Is that not a key piece of evidence?


AvB: Well, this is a key piece, a key piece of evidence of the thinking
of probably the military in dialogue with politics.  Probably, I think
Kennedy decided not to do it but I think it was, it was all of the- AJ:
Tell you what, stay there.  We've got to break; we'll be right back
folks.  (Fade to music)


(Commercial Break)


AJ: All right my friends, I'm Alex Jones your host.  For the rest of the
hour we are honored to have Andreas von Bulow, former Defense Secretary
and former head of technology, Department of Technology in Germany.  And
he's just gotten out of government a few years ago and he's just written
a best selling book '9 11 and the CIA' and we have info on that at
Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.  We will also be posting this
interview on the Website in the next few days as well. There are so many
facets to this- Mr. von Bulow, continuing with you waking up to what
happened on 9 11 and researching it, what are some of the other key
points that clearly show that it is impossible that these nineteen people
did this; we know that is a fraud.  It is a conspiracy theory to say that
they did it alone. From your intensive research and your understanding of
high-level government activities, what do you think really happened on 9
11?


AvB: Well, nobody can prove what happened 9 11 directly because it has
been a covert operation and you don't find proof; you will find only
indications.  And one of the indications- the indication that everything
is right with these nineteen people and Usama bin Laden is that the
government is free to show all the prove that is on the table that is on
the street that lays on the ground of the World Trade Center and so on
and so on.  If you have a covert operation the probability is always that
the leftover pieces of proof are taken away immediately and a lot of
secrecy, a band of secrecy, has taken over everything. And, this has
happened with 9 11.


AJ: And that also happened- where you aware the New York Times and
Chicago Tribune reported this in '93, the FBI cooked the bomb and trained
the driver[s] and had an Egyptian security agent doing it for them, had
two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and park it,
let the bombing go forward.  At Oklahoma City, the same company that
destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center, blew up the remnants of
Oklahoma City [and] had that buried under machine gun guard at a private
landfill to this day.  And they hauled the rubble away from the W T C to
China!  They wouldn't let you take photographs.  Yes, exactly.


AvB: Yeah, then at the beginning the engineers weren't allowed to go up
to the steel truss [debris]  and had a lot of problems- there was very
scarce money.  And you know, to clear up the story with Bill Clinton and
Monica Lewinsky, the Republican majority gave out sixty million dollars,
I think it's seventy now, and they started out with 600 000 dollars to
try to figure out what happened on 9 11.  And, they were taken away from
doing research and so on and so on and they are upset.  And, Fire
Engineer Magazine said it was totally unbelievable what happened with
this examination of 9 11.


AJ: Well, they say it was a criminal cover up and now, sir, we've turned
into a police state.  They can secretly arrest citizens, secretly execute
us.  They are building admitted prison camps all over the country, this
is in our news.  We're turning into something like the Soviet Union here.


AvB: Well, I can't comment on this but what's going on in Guantanamo is
like that.  I think the problem is that if you put people, who ever you
like in Guantanamo in Cuba, you take them away for one or two years
without letting a lawyer to them, without showing them what you are
reprising to them, without having contact from their family- they tell in
all court processes what the FBI is wanting from them-


AJ: Well, sir-


AvB: And so you get fake evidence from these kinds of people, if you
behave like that.


AJ: And sir, sir.  Our mainstream news says that torture is good and they
say they are torturing people, that's the Washington Post.  Is that a
concern that our government now admits it's torturing?


AvB: Well, I'm informed- I don't know whether they are torturing, keeping
them is a kind of a torture, but I am told there is an agreement with a
lot of states to put these people to Egypt and other states where torture
is accepted and is done and you get the final outcome of this torture and
you can produce this in front of German courts and American courts and
try to bring about final judgment.


AJ: Well that's it.  We'll be back; long segment coming up and we'll get
more into your book.  We're honored to have you, Andreas von Bulow.  Stay
with us.  (Fade)


(Commercial Break)


AJ: All right folks.  We're talking with Andreas von Bulow and to make
this clear, up until about two years ago he was the head minister over
the Department of Technology and before that he was the head of his
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253 3139. Now, going back to Andreas von Bulow, sir, we were talking
during the break and I said what are some of the other key points that
you would like to go over.  You mentioned the CIA and insider trading and
the Anthrax attacks.  Please discuss it.


AvB: Well, the insider trading, everybody knows that there [was] news
about insider trading.  I think altogether fifteen billion dollars. And,
there was speculation about going down, of United Airlines and American
Airlines; both airlines which were attacked by 9 11 and other things.
So, normally you could find out because I think the American- the CIA
together with the financial department, the Treasury, they developed this
­ watching the markets to find out speculation about going on terrorist
attacks.  So, they could immediately find out if there were something
going on- and they could find out.  And, in this case, they- 9 11- the
NSA people which are the guys watching via satellites the whole of the
transactions going on, on Earth, they said, they told the people to
destroy the tapes.  They had tapes about this interior trading and they
said they had to destroy them so they are not any longer proof. AJ:  Now
again, interior trading that's a good term for it, insider trading.  So
again, insider trading or interior trading going on here and fifteen
billion dollars, I think that's a low estimate.  It came out the first
week, Germany reported on it, France reported on it, the US, 'we're going
to catch them!'  Record put options against United and American; not
against other airlines but specifically against these and it leads back
to the CIA and suddenly they destroy the evidence. Again, again another
smoking gun.  Then, you get into anthrax attacks; Bush on Cipro, the most
weaponized anthrax ever seen.  Tell us about that.


AvB: Well, there the question just is who has the responsibility for
this!  You know, it overlaid the whole public debate of what was the
background and reason for 9 11 for weeks because these attacks were going
on for weeks and weeks and weeks.  And, finally nothing came out.  We
have no report on who was responsible, who did it and this again is
amazing.  I think it belongs probably to the cover up of the
psychological cover-up of the whole scenery.  And then, the
vice-President and the President asking Congress not to go into too much
detail about the background of 9 11.  What does this mean?  And until now
it's what the President knew before 9 11 is a total secret. I think there
is no secret service around the world which gave no hints to the American
secret service community, the CIA, the DIA and so on and so on.  They did
nothing out of it.  The most disturbing thing is that these guys that
knew about something in coming up 9 11, were cutout before.  I mean the
local level of the FBI offices, they knew quite a lot and they tried to
force the central organization to go into the details about Arabs taking
lessons in flight schools and so on.  And, the guy who decided on top, I
think the second man who was in the FBI he [said] 'no we don't do this'
and he got promoted after 9 11.


AJ: By the way, the US embassies that allowed supposed Al- Qaeda back in
got record cash bonuses.  The FBI agents who ordered other FBI agents not
to stop Al-Qaeda, they go bonuses.  Bush signed W199I months before 9 11
ordering FBI not to stop Al-Qaeda.  They threatened to arrest FBI Robert
Wright if he tells us what he knows.  I've interviewed his lawyer David
Schippers who knew about the attacks beforehand.  He went to Bush; Bush
wouldn't talk to him, Ashcroft wouldn't talk to him.  And you said
something very astute, sir, you talked about the anthrax being a
psychological cover-up of the scenery.  That is, all these questions
coming out in the early days about 9 11 got blacked out by the anthrax
attacks and that's absolutely why that happened.  We've tracked that back
to Fort Detrick, Maryland.  And they said it wasn't weaponized anthrax,
it turned out it was the most weaponized ever seen.


AvB: Yeah, that's absolutely correct and the wars which were reasoned to
be fights against terrorism, the war against Afghanistan to put out the
Taliban it was decided long before and I think in June before 9 11. The
Afghanistan government- no, the Pakistan government and the Indian
government [were] told there would be an intervention in October.


AJ: Also, 44 000 US troops, 18 000 US troops were in Tajikistan and
Uzbekistan, Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days before
9 11.


AvB: That's exact, that's exactly-


AJ: And sir, I want to digress back to torture for a minute because you
have been, you've impressed by, I mean you know so much about this,
you've researched it so well- On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus
quit Guantanamo because he quote 'refused to torture the people there'
and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly
them to foreign countries and then the CIA tortures them themselves so
they do admit the torture.


AvB: (Pause) Sure.  I can't comment on this [but] it's obvious; all the
court proceedings against for example against Moussaui I think it was the
20th nominally- it was supposed in each aircraft to have five hijackers
and this one was taken into prison by the FBI.  I think the process was
made in Alexandria, Virginia and I think the judge said that if you don't
give the proof [of] these guys who are running Al- Qaeda and give these
people for cross-examination then I can't deliver a judgment.  The same
is true in Germany; we have people who are related to Al-Qaeda-and
probably Al-Qaeda is an artificial, err, [de]nomination of- AJ: CIA
fiction.


AvB:- a ruse of elements of Islamic people.  In Hamburg, the trials are
failing because the American government is not delivering the proof.


AJ: Absolutely and look, we've had military officers and many others on,
it is clear that Al Qaeda is a CIA creation.  A foggy boogie man so the
military-industrial complex can carry out attacks and then pin it on them
and I mean we know when bin Laden blows up a building supposedly, our
government pays his family to rebuild it. AvB: Yeah.


AJ: I mean there's the payoff right out in the open.


AvB: Yeah, the whole background of- the whole personalities like bin
Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these are all
figures that were handled by the CIA in former times.  So probably they
are recycled in the system now as bad guys.  Before, they were the good
guys taking away the Russians out of Afghanistan and dealing with this,
getting money for this, getting paid for this now they are used as bad
guys.  Usama bin Laden has been, in '95, in the Balkans in an operation
the Americans were with the UKG in Albania.  You find these guys all
over; you find these guys in Chechnya for example. There are also 'former
Afghanis' as they are called and they are [driven] in loaded planes of
the CIA for example.


AJ: Absolutely so they provide the crisis so Big Brother could provide
the police state solution.  Andreas von Bulow it is clear that if we do
not expose at least who stands to gain from this terror and who was
involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own our
government, they are going to be able to use America as the engine of
quote imperial mobilization and world domination.  As Zbigniew Brzezinski
and the PNAC documents said, how important is it to expose this for the
future of free humanity?


AvB: I think it's, for everybody outside of the United States it's
extremely important because it's a question of whether democracy will
survive and whether the state of law is kept up or we'll be driven by
public relations and financial interest.  And I think the main thing for
the Americans is who pays for all this.  Because, if the oil companies
get more cheap oil and make their money out of it, the American taxpayer
has to pay for the military machine.  The oil companies aren't paying for
that.  It's not the military-industrial complex paying for that, it is
the American taxpayer so it's extremely important.


AJ: Absolutely and now we are paying record amounts for fuel for petrol
in this country while they have record supplies and the oil companies are
posting record profits.  I want to get into W T C 7 because I want people
to hear these clips.  These are from the PBS documentary, and this will
just take a minute sir, and then I want to get your comment on it, where
they describe how Building 7 fell and how they removed it first because
quote 'nobody died in it.'   It's the owner, Larry Silverstein who pulled
it, gave the order to demolish it on the afternoon of September 11th, so,
Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us please.


PBS Documentary (narrator): World Trade Center 7 had always been
considered the starting point for rebuilding.  Located north of the
slurry wall, Building 7 had been cleared faster than the rest of the
site.  There had been no bodies to recover.  Pelted by debris when the
North Tower collapsed, Seven burned into the late afternoon allowing
occupants to evacuate to safety.


PBS Documentary (Silverstein): I remember getting a call from the, err,
Fire Department commander telling me that they were not sure they would
be able to contain the fire.  I thought we had such terrible loss of
life, maybe the smartest thing to do was, was pull it, and they made the
decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.


AJ: We made the decision to pull, and we watched the building collapse.
Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses and this is what Dan
Rather had to say and then we'll get von Bulow's comment.


(Voice of Dan Rather): What you are seeing are high shots, now here we're
going to show you a videotape of the collapse itself.  Now we go to
videotape of the collapse of this building.  (Associate- 'it's amazing')
Amazing, incredible, pick your word.  For the third time today, it's
reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television
before when a building was destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it
down.


AJ: Now, again, the seismographs show multiple explosions, the
firefighters were told to get back.  Von Bulow, how important is this
piece of evidence?


AvB: The explosions, well the government has to explain it!  They have to
prove their case.  They have to this conspiracy theory that these
nineteen Muslims under the direction of Usama bin Laden.  It's not my
business; it's only 'if there are explosions, if it's true, can it be
that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these huge buildings in
a manner that they are collapsing in a…


AJ: Symmetrical.


AvB: …free-fall in a very short- in a few seconds, that they broke
together.  It's nearly impossible.  So everything that is on the table is
telling that the government story is not true.  And there must be another
story and it must be explosions and the spikes in geological institutions
in five states, 2.2 on the Richter scale, you have to find out what's the
background.  And five or seven days later the temperature on the ground
was five hundred degrees, or a little bit more than 450, if just fires
were-


AJ: We've got to break. We'll be right back.


(Commercial Break)


AJ: We're talking with Andreas von Bulow.  Former minister at the highest
levels of the German government.  Former Technology Minister.  And I know
we have a lot of callers but we only have time to take maybe one or two,
Dan in Oklahoma.  I just want to commend Andreas von Bulow for writing
this book 9 11 and the CIA and I would hope a publisher would get a hold
of it and translate it and publish it here because I would definitely
carry it.  You can find information on the book for those who read and
speak German at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.  Andreas von Bulow
let's take a call, let's talk to Dan in Oklahoma.  Dan, you're on the air
go ahead.


Dan: Yes, thanks Alex.  Mr. von Bulow my question is following this
disaster of 9 1 1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia and why they
didn't want to get involved because of the money they had invested with
Iraq.  With the military-industrial complex like it is, what do you
understand the New World Order to be especially since they said they
could us this event to-


AJ: Yes, who are, who are the forces behind government-sponsored terror?


AvB: Who are the forces behind government?  I do not understand this.


AJ: Well we know this global government is forming.  We know that
powerful financial interests are engineering terror attacks, who are the
forces behind the military industrial complex?


AvB: Well, it's always interesting.  If you look at who owns the
munitions factory in the East-West conflict or the Near-East conflict,
they are always trying to sell their material to both sides.  And, they
are always interested in conflict and they would like after the breakdown
of the Soviet Union, the noble thing would be to cut down this
military-industrial complex, which costs the American taxpayer a huge
amount of money.  Exactly the same time the Soviet Union breaks down,
this new terror thing comes up.  The first terrorist attacks were I think
the World Trade Center one and you find out the leading guy of this
bombing, this time an agricultural bomb, he was going immediately to FBI
and saying 'I'll tell you everything about this' and they agreed finally
twenty-four hours before the attack in 1993, they would change the
powder, the dangerous powder against the [non] dangerous powder and the
FBI didn't come up to do this so-


AJ: Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers and that's another
patsy.


AvB:-people were [injured] and six people were dead.  In Oklahoma you had
nearly the same thing.  You had two attacks.  One was perhaps McViegh and
this other guy but there was another attack much more strong than this
agricultural bomb and there is an American general, an Air Force general
who for I think ten years or fifteen years in charge of this explosive
institute and he said never could this agrarian bomb bring about such
damage.  There must be something else and they found that within the
building there were demolition charges.


AJ: Absolutely, Dan thanks for the call.  I hope we can get you on in the
future again, Andreas von Bulow, you've been so kind.  You have such
amazing courage to stand up and tell the truth and we've been honored to
have you on the show from Germany.  God bless you. AvB: Thank you.


AJ: Thank you very much and have a good evening.


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