[Advisors] PAC is over but not CAP-Y

Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:00:13 -0600

Dana,=20

I want to make sure you understand my meaning.

I live in rural Alberta, the wellspring of today's Regressive =
Conservative politics.

This government will only listen to reason that resonates with their =
dogma.

Now they've been cornered by the F-35 procurement fiasco, and they are =
anything but contrite.

They are in a vicious and vindictive mood, and putting the screws to =
them about CAP will be like prodding a wounded animal.

I'd rather we didn't waste time or energy on a lost cause.

The Conservatives hate CAP, because it runs counter to their dogma.

For as long as they've been in power, they've been looking for a =
politically tenable way to kill it.

Late afternoon, the day before a long weekend... says it all.

CAP is one of the most useful and important programs the federal =
government has delivered in the last two decades.=20

We should be expanding the program, but we need to shift focus to =
audiences that are far more likely to recognize its value.

Younger people will be the strongest audience, including younger =
entrepreneurs.=20

If we can retool it as an economic program rather than a social program, =
it will have much stronger legs.

This is the discussion we need to be having... how to make this happen.

James

On 2012-04-06, at 8:31 PM, Dana Perry wrote:

> With all due respect as a coordinator for the CAP program in NS it is =
not a "dead horse". Support youth absolutely...but to turn our back on =
the program is ludicrous and cowardly. The program I support and promote =
is forward thinking and innovative...which is more than I can allow the =
bureaucrats.  I read some of your other posts and thought them to be =
quite good. This one...not so much.
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> Quoting James Van Leeuwen <jvl@dusk.ca>:
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>> =46rom here on, I think TC should focus almost entirely on Canada's =
youth.
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>> I've pointed out that the Conservative political franchise is built =
around the insecurities of Canada's predominantly self-interested senior =
generations.
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>> There is great political strength in their numbers, but regrettably - =
with notable exceptions - there is far less strength in their political =
character.
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>> Frankly, I would not envy the legacy that Canada's senior generations =
are now creating for themselves.
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>> Recognize this announcement and the craven timing of its delivery for =
what it truly is.
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>> It is a statement of indifference to the needs and interests of our =
youth and underclass.
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>> Continued support for CAP-YI is but a fig leaf.
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>> The needs and interests of youth are at best an afterthought to this =
government, and to most older Canadians.
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>> Even if the government could be compelled to restore CAP funding, it =
would not change this deeper reality.
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>> They have offered no credible or compelling vision for the nation's =
future, and I believe it is futile to engage them in this context.
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>> We are all very busy people.
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>> Let's stop flogging nearly-dead horses, and invest where there is =
energy, opportunity and genuine hope.
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>> If Canada's youth are being left to their own devices, let's help =
them put their devices to the best possible use.
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>> Let's engage them and support them in painting and pursuing a =
meaningful vision that is all about their future, and creating a legacy =
that is worth celebrating.
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>> We might start by bringing some active and able youth on to the TC =
Board and Advisory committees.
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>> JvL
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>> On 2012-04-06, at 10:22 AM, James Van Leeuwen wrote:
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>>> The Conservatives won their mandate on a two-plank platform of low =
taxes and getting tough on crime.
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>>> They are appealing directly to the anxieties of an aging population, =
and this is their entire political franchise.
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>>> So play where the puck is.
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>>> All site coordinators should be reaching out to their local press to =
explain the economic and social impacts of this decision.
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>>> TC can make it easy for them by laying out the economic and social =
impacts in the most compelling way.
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>>> What are the real and potential impacts?
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>>> I'm hardly the expert, but I've recently learned of a First Nation =
community in northeastern Alberta where youth are breaking into school =
to access the Internet.
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>>> It's the only access solution they can afford, as there is no CAP =
site in their community.
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>>> What are the potential implications for Joe citizen?
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>>> Is somebody thinking of breaking into their home, business or =
workplace to access the Internet?
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>>> This is a conclusion many people will draw for themselves... it =
doesn't need to be spelled out.
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>>> It only takes two letters or phone calls to an MP for them to flag =
an issue as worthy of their attention.
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>>> If every MP in the country with a CAP site in their riding were =
making inquiries of the Industry Minister, they might actually be =
compelled to respond.
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>>> What might compel CAP site users and non-users alike to reach out to =
their MPs?
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>>> JvL
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>>> On 2012-04-06, at 6:36 AM, David Murdoch wrote:
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>>>> Some consolidated response to this unfortunate - but not unforseen =
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>>>> news would seem to me to be a job for TC.
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>>>> What should it be?
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>>>> David
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>>>> 2012/4/5 Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net>:
>>>>> Translation of Monique's report:
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>>>>> We have received news to the effect that the CAP program is =
terminated.  It
>>>>> is considered to have achieved it's goals in the current context =
of
>>>>> balancing the budget.
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>>>>> However, CAP-YI will be continued and CAP sites will continue to =
be
>>>>> recognized as workplaces to offer employment experience to youth =
and provide
>>>>> a transition to the labour market.
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>>>>> We are awaiting the necessary forms.
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>>>>> I take this occasion to wish you all a Happy Easter
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>>>>> Monique Chartrand
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>>>>> At 09:09 PM 05/04/2012, Monique Chartrand wrote:
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>>>>>> Bonjour =E0 vous,
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>>>>>> Nous avons re=E7u la nouvelle =E0 l'effet que le Programme =
d'acc=E8s
>>>>>> communautaire (PAC) d'industrie Canada est termin=E9, consid=E9r=E9=
 avoir atteint
>>>>>> ses objectifs en raison de la recherche d'=E9quilibre budg=E9taire.=

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>>>>>> Par contre, on nous annonce la poursuite de l'IJ-PAC (PAC-Y) et =
le fait
>>>>>> que les CACI (CAP site) demeureront admissibles, afin d'offrir =
des
>>>>>> opportunit=E9s d'exp=E9rience d'emploi aux jeunes pour leur =
fournir des
>>>>>> comp=E9tences essentielles vers une transition sur le march=E9 du =
travail.
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>>>>>> Nous aurons sous peu les modalit=E9s pr=E9vues.
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>>>>>> J'en profite pour vous souhaiter de Joyeuses P=E2ques, Happy =
Easter,
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>>>>>> Monique
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>>>>>> Monique Chartrand
>>>>>> Directrice g=E9n=E9rale
>>>>>> Communautique
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>>>>>> =
<http://ca.linkedin.com/in/moniquechartrand>http://ca.linkedin.com/in/moni=
quechartrand
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> Dana Perry
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