[Advisors] Re: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Canadian Government Action Plan for Open Government Data
Duncan Sanderson
Duncan Sanderson <duncan_sanderson at yahoo.ca>
Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
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=A0=0AI think the Nova Scotia CAP group has an interesting and useful obser=
vation here.=A0=0A"As far as prioritizing expenditures" Stackhouse continue=
s, "the Federal Government saved billions in civil service salaries when it=
transferred almost all of its services from in-person to online; this was =
successful due in no small part to the minor amount of money provided to CA=
P. We act as the local access point where people can get help. Government w=
eb sites still say, if you need access or assistance, go to a CAP site. "=
=0A=A0=0AIf=A0someone has documented=A0the money the=A0government may have =
saved through CAP (perhaps=0Aby not having their own support services for c=
itizens), a link to this would be useful and =0Athis should be cited more o=
ften.=0A=A0=0AIf it hasn't been studied, perhaps a good term or thesis proj=
ect ...=0A=A0=0AThere certainly seems to be a=A0contraction with "an open a=
nd responsive government", the spin put forward by=0Athe current government=
.=0A=A0=0A- Duncan Sanderson=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> =
From: michael gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com>=0A>To: cracin-canada@vancouverc=
ommunity.net; advisors@tc.ca; 'civicaccess discuss' <civicaccess-discuss@ci=
vicaccess.ca> =0A>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:02:46 AM=0A>Subject: [Com=
munityInformaticsCanada] Canadian Government Action Plan for Open Governmen=
t Data=0A> =0A>http://open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ap-pa01-eng.asp=0A>=0A>This s=
eems to me to be a reasonable set of first steps but the problem is=0A>when=
this is combined with the elimination of the Community Access Program=0A>(=
see attached) a significant proportion of the population (those without=0A>=
personal access to the Internet) will be excluded from having easy low cost=
=0A>access to this data/information.=0A>=0A>M=0A>=0A>About the CRACIN Discu=
ssion Mailing List=0A>cracin-canada @ vancouvercommunity.net=0A>Purpose: ne=
ws + discussion related directly to CRACIN research =0A>Members: Core Resea=
rch Team + graduate students + others who are (becoming) directly involved =
with CRACIN research activities (e.g. other government partners, private se=
ctor partners, and those invited based on their expression of interest). It=
is the main ongoing forum for CRACIN research discussion.=0A>=0A>List info=
and admin: http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists=0A>CRACIN home page: http:/=
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span></span>&nb=
sp;</div><div><span>I think the Nova Scotia CAP group has an interesting an=
d useful observation here.</span></div><span><div align=3D"LEFT"></div><div=
> </div><div> <font size=3D"3">"As far as prioritizing expenditures" S=
tackhouse continues, "the Federal Government saved billions in civil servic=
e salaries when it transferred almost all of its services from in-person to=
online; this was successful due in no small part to the minor amount of mo=
ney provided to CAP. We act as the local access point where people can get =
help. Government web sites still say, if you need access or assistance, go =
to a CAP site. "</font></div><div> </div><div>If someone has docu=
mented the money the government may have saved through CAP (perha=
ps</div><div>by not having their own support services for citizens), a
link to this would be useful and </div><div>this should be cited more ofte=
n.</div><div> </div><div>If it hasn't been studied, perhaps a good ter=
m or thesis project ...</div><div> </div><div>There certainly seems to=
be a contraction with "an open and responsive government", the spin p=
ut forward by</div><div>the current government.</div><div> </div><div>=
- Duncan Sanderson</div><font size=3D"3"></font></span><div><br><blockquote=
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-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> michael gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com>=
;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> cracin-canada@va=
ncouvercommunity.net; advisors@tc.ca; 'civicaccess discuss' <civicaccess=
-discuss@civicaccess.ca> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent=
:</span></b> Friday, April 13, 2012 12:02:46 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Canadian Go=
vernment Action Plan for Open Government Data<br> </font> </div> <br><a hre=
f=3D"http://open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ap-pa01-eng.asp" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ap-pa01-eng.asp</a><br><br>This seems to me to be =
a reasonable set of first steps but the problem is<br>when this is combined=
with the elimination of the Community Access Program<br>(see attached) a s=
ignificant proportion of the population (those without<br>personal access t=
o the
Internet) will be excluded from having easy low cost<br>access to this dat=
a/information.<br><br>M<br><br>About the CRACIN Discussion Mailing List<br>=
cracin-canada @ vancouvercommunity.net<br>Purpose: news + discussion relate=
d directly to CRACIN research <br>Members: Core Research Team + graduate st=
udents + others who are (becoming) directly involved with CRACIN research a=
ctivities (e.g. other government partners, private sector partners, and tho=
se invited based on their expression of interest). It is the main ongoing f=
orum for CRACIN research discussion.<br><br>List info and admin: <a href=3D=
"http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists" target=3D"_blank">http://vancouvercom=
munity.net/lists</a><br>CRACIN home page: <a href=3D"http://www.cracin.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.cracin.ca</a> <br><br> </div> </div> </blockqu=
ote></div> </div></body></html>
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