[Advisors] Re: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Conservative position on CAP
Robert Rattle
robert14robert at yahoo.ca
Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:44:13 -0700 (PDT)
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James, I might just use your second line below in a local column on this is=
sue now that it has hit home.
"Federal funding for computers needed by soup kitchen, says co-ordinator"
If anyone has any advice for talking points, it would be appreciated.
ps - to our utter shock and embarrassment, our riding dumped Tony Martin in=
favour of a conservative candidate last election.
--- On Thu, 4/12/12, James Van Leeuwen <jvl@ventus.ca> wrote:
From: James Van Leeuwen <jvl@ventus.ca>
Subject: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Conservative position on CAP
To: "michael gurstein" <gurstein@gmail.com>, "Cracin Vancouver" <cracin-can=
ada@vancouvercommunity.net>, "David Murdoch" <davidjmurdoch@gmail.com>, "'T=
C Advisors' (advisors@tc.ca)" <advisors@tc.ca>
Received: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:47 AM
Partisanship is a cornerstone of Conservative governance, not just a tactic=
.
The Conservatives don't value CAP because they don't value CAP site users.
Few will ever vote=0A Conservative, never mind make a political contributio=
n.
Nor will Conservative voters be influenced by negative media coverage relat=
ing to CAP... they expect it.
The Conservative political franchise is safe.
The only value they apparently find in CAP are the opportunities for youth =
interns, who might become more productive in the narrow Conservative sense =
of the word.
This all might be difficult for the CAP site community to accept, but they =
can hardly afford false hope.
The Conservatives are done with this, and have moved on to other policy obj=
ectives.
Their rationale is flawed, but nevertheless politically unassailable.
"CAP has fulfilled its role."
Most Canadians and virtually all Conservative voters will accept this ratio=
nale.
The Conservatives won't be saving CAP.
JvL
P.S.:=20
A brief dispatch from the wellspring of modern Canadian Conservatism.
Alberta=0A has a provincial election coming up on the 23rd.
I attended an All Candidates Forum this evening for my rural southwest ridi=
ng.=20
There were 130 people in attendance.
I estimated their average age at 63, give or take two years.
They were trying to decide which brand of Conservative to vote for.=20
Progressive Conservative (small 'c', wilted and stale), or Wildrose Allianc=
e (big 'C', bouncy and fresh).=20
This is the Conservative voter base, the very foundation of their franchise=
.
How do we engage and mobilize rural youth.
On 2012-04-11, at 10:30 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
>=20
> The official line of the Harper government on CAP.
>=20
> M
>=20
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:=C2=A0 <gerald.keddy@parl.gc.ca>
> Date:=0A Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:40 PM
> Subject: CAP
> To: davidjmurdoch@gmail.com
>=20
>=20
> Dear Mr. Murdoch,
>=20
> Thank you for your correspondence regarding the Community Access Program
> (CAP.) I appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with me an=
d
> hope that my response will help answer any questions that you may have.
>=20
> The Community Access Program was launched in 1995 when the Internet was a=
t
> its infancy and has successfully met its objectives. It was then
> increasingly evident that the Internet would be critical to Canada=E2=80=
=99s future
> competitiveness and the objective was to encourage participation in the
> knowledge-based economy by maximizing the accessibility of computers and =
the
> Internet at public access points across Canada, such as at public=0A libr=
aries.
>=20
> In 1995, only 40 percent of Canadian households had a computer and only
> about 10 percent of these had Internet access.=C2=A0 In contrast, in 2010=
about
> 79 percent of Canadians had access to the Internet at home.=C2=A0 Today w=
ith the
> advent of smart phones, many Canadians have such access to the Internet i=
n
> their hands.
>=20
> Federal funding will continue to support youth internships at community
> Internet sites. This will provide young Canadians with vital skills and w=
ork
> experience needed to make a successful transition to the workplace while
> contributing to job creation.
>=20
> To assist more young people gain skills and work experience, Industry Can=
ada
> will continue to receive $10.2 million a year from the government=E2=80=
=99s Youth
> Employment Strategy (YES) to fund youth internships. Former CAP-supported
> sites will continue to be=0A eligible to benefit from this funding. Schoo=
ls,
> libraries and not-for-profit learning organizations that require access t=
o
> technology can continue to benefit from other federal initiatives such as
> the Computers for Schools Program.
>=20
> CAP has fulfilled its role. Now, the key is to ensure first rate networks
> are in place across Canada. That=E2=80=99s why our government is ensuring=
high-speed
> broadband to 98% of Canadian households.
>=20
> Thank you again for your correspondence regarding the Community Access
> Program. If you have any further questions or concerns please feel free t=
o
> contact me.
>=20
> Sincerely,
>=20
> Gerald Keddy MP
>=20
> South Shore =E2=80=93 St Margaret=E2=80=99s
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> David Murdoch Consulting davidmurdoch.ca
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 East River, Nova Scotia Phone: (902) 275-2309
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"font:inherit;font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;">James, I might just use yo=
ur second line below in a local column on this issue now that it has <a hre=
f=3D"http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3D3537519">hit home</a>=
.<br><a href=3D"http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3D3537519">"=
Federal funding for computers needed by soup kitchen, says co-ordinator"</a=
><br><br>If anyone has any advice for talking points, it would be appreciat=
ed.<br><br>ps - to our utter shock and embarrassment, our riding dumped Ton=
y Martin in favour of a conservative candidate last election.<br><br><br>--=
- On <b>Thu, 4/12/12, James Van Leeuwen <i><jvl@ventus.ca></i></b> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote
style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-le=
ft:5px;"><br>From: James Van Leeuwen <jvl@ventus.ca><br>Subject: [Com=
munityInformaticsCanada] Conservative position on CAP<br>To: "michael gurst=
ein" <gurstein@gmail.com>, "Cracin Vancouver" <cracin-canada@vanco=
uvercommunity.net>, "David Murdoch" <davidjmurdoch@gmail.com>, "'T=
C Advisors' (advisors@tc.ca)" <advisors@tc.ca><br>Received: Thursday,=
April 12, 2012, 2:47 AM<br><br><div class=3D"yiv1371047444plainMail">Parti=
sanship is a cornerstone of Conservative governance, not just a tactic.<br>=
<br>The Conservatives don't value CAP because they don't value CAP site use=
rs.<br><br>Few will ever vote=0A Conservative, never mind make a political =
contribution.<br><br>Nor will Conservative voters be influenced by negative=
media coverage relating to CAP... they expect it.<br><br>The Conservative =
political franchise is safe.<br><br><br>The only value they apparently find=
in CAP are the opportunities for youth interns, who might become more prod=
uctive in the narrow Conservative sense of the word.<br><br>This all might =
be difficult for the CAP site community to accept, but they can hardly affo=
rd false hope.<br><br>The Conservatives are done with this, and have moved =
on to other policy objectives.<br><br>Their rationale is flawed, but nevert=
heless politically unassailable.<br><br>"CAP has fulfilled its role."<br><b=
r>Most Canadians and virtually all Conservative voters will accept this rat=
ionale.<br><br>The Conservatives won't be saving CAP.<br><br>JvL<br><br><br=
>P.S.: <br><br>A brief dispatch from the wellspring of modern Canadian Cons=
ervatism.<br><br>Alberta=0A has a provincial election coming up on the 23rd=
.<br><br>I attended an All Candidates Forum this evening for my rural south=
west riding. <br><br>There were 130 people in attendance.<br><br>I estimate=
d their average age at 63, give or take two years.<br><br>They were trying =
to decide which brand of Conservative to vote for. <br><br>Progressive Cons=
ervative (small 'c', wilted and stale), or Wildrose Alliance (big 'C', boun=
cy and fresh). <br><br>This is the Conservative voter base, the very founda=
tion of their franchise.<br><br><br>How do we engage and mobilize rural you=
th.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On 2012-04-11, at 10:30 PM, michael gurs=
tein wrote:<br><br>> <br>> The official line of the Harper government=
on CAP.<br>> <br>> M<br>> <br>> ---------- Forwarded message -=
---------<br>> From: <<a rel=3D"nofollow">gerald.keddy@parl.gc.=
ca</a>><br>> Date:=0A Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:40 PM<br>> Subject: C=
AP<br>> To: <a rel=3D"nofollow">davidjmurdoch@gmail.com</a><br>> <br>=
> <br>> Dear Mr. Murdoch,<br>> <br>> Thank you for your corresp=
ondence regarding the Community Access Program<br>> (CAP.) I appreciate =
you taking the time to share your concerns with me and<br>> hope that my=
response will help answer any questions that you may have.<br>> <br>>=
; The Community Access Program was launched in 1995 when the Internet was a=
t<br>> its infancy and has successfully met its objectives. It was then<=
br>> increasingly evident that the Internet would be critical to Canada=
=E2=80=99s future<br>> competitiveness and the objective was to encourag=
e participation in the<br>> knowledge-based economy by maximizing the ac=
cessibility of computers and the<br>> Internet at public access points a=
cross Canada, such as at public=0A libraries.<br>> <br>> In 1995, onl=
y 40 percent of Canadian households had a computer and only<br>> about 1=
0 percent of these had Internet access. In contrast, in 2010 about<br=
>> 79 percent of Canadians had access to the Internet at home. Tod=
ay with the<br>> advent of smart phones, many Canadians have such access=
to the Internet in<br>> their hands.<br>> <br>> Federal funding w=
ill continue to support youth internships at community<br>> Internet sit=
es. This will provide young Canadians with vital skills and work<br>> ex=
perience needed to make a successful transition to the workplace while<br>&=
gt; contributing to job creation.<br>> <br>> To assist more young peo=
ple gain skills and work experience, Industry Canada<br>> will continue =
to receive $10.2 million a year from the government=E2=80=99s Youth<br>>=
Employment Strategy (YES) to fund youth internships. Former CAP-supported<=
br>> sites will continue to be=0A eligible to benefit from this funding.=
Schools,<br>> libraries and not-for-profit learning organizations that =
require access to<br>> technology can continue to benefit from other fed=
eral initiatives such as<br>> the Computers for Schools Program.<br>>=
<br>> CAP has fulfilled its role. Now, the key is to ensure first rate =
networks<br>> are in place across Canada. That=E2=80=99s why our governm=
ent is ensuring high-speed<br>> broadband to 98% of Canadian households.=
<br>> <br>> Thank you again for your correspondence regarding the Com=
munity Access<br>> Program. If you have any further questions or concern=
s please feel free to<br>> contact me.<br>> <br>> Sincerely,<br>&g=
t; <br>> Gerald Keddy MP<br>> <br>> South Shore =E2=80=93 St Marga=
ret=E2=80=99s<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> David=
Murdoch Consulting davidmurdoch.ca<br>> East River, Nova S=
cotia Phone: (902) 275-2309<br>>=0A ____________________________________=
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