[Advisors] Well, that didn't work

Michael Corbett Michael.Corbett at cannor.gc.ca
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Or this from Rick Salutin
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/stephen-harper-the-last-straussian/article1710880/

>>> On 4/20/2012 at 2:43 PM, in message
<147157C5-7311-4216-AE89-DBFCA2E3511A@ventus.ca>, James Van Leeuwen
<jvl@ventus.ca> wrote:

Good sarcastic humour, but probably counterproductive.

Nobody likes to be ridiculed, and some get vindictive. 


For the federal Conservatives, you're either with them or against
them.

Stand with us, or stand with the pedophiles - they really do see the
world in black and white.


Here is some highly recommended scholarly and 100% non-partisan reading
on the topic:

http://righteousmind.com


JvL





On 2012-04-20, at 1:50 PM, Gareth Shearman wrote:



So we'll do it this way:
An imagined interview: Bob Newhart asks Stephen Harper about the 2012
budget




By Elizabeth May on 12 April 2012 - 8:56am

BN ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Newhart ): Mr. Prime Minister, I
am so pleased you agreed to take my call


BN: Thank you for that, but I am not actually from Vermont…. It was a
television show.


BN: Great, well I wanted to start by asking you about the decisions in
your budget. It is a pretty anti-environmental budget. There is a lot in
there for supertankers and pipelines and expanding fossil fuels, but
nothing to address the threat of climate change.

BN: No, sir. No one has ever thought I was radical before….. I hardly
ever take jets… not sure about foreign-funding. Does that include being
an American? Is that foreign? OK….just calm down, I will move on.
BN: To change the topic, I am wondering why the budget says the
government is committed to connecting Canadians by internet and then
there is no more money for internet….
BN: Yes, well I see you put some money into internet and high speed
access in the past….
BN: No, I wasn’t trying to talk about on-line warrant-less access. I am
not sure what that is…
BN: I certainly do not stand with child pornographers. I don’t sit with
them either. … No I wasn’t trying to make light of child pornographers
or… no, not internet predators either….
BN: Thanks for clearing that up, but what I wanted to know was how
Canadians will access the internet in communities that have relied on
Community Access (it was called the CAP programme), and now it is
gone….
BN: So they just don’t need the internet in remote communities?…… Yes,
I agree we are doing well by phone.
BN: I also notice you have eliminated the National Round Table on
Environment and Economy. Wasn’t that established by a previous
Conservative government? ….. Right, not one that you liked. A bit too
left-wing? I see….. I have read that your Environment Minister thinks
you don’t need the environment and economy round table any more because
it was established a long time ago, in a time when Canadians did not
have the internet. …. Yes, and he says that now you have the internet,
so you don’t need this advisory body….. No, I am not trying to trick
you. I just wondered about cutting the internet when the internet is
replacing the round table…..
BN: Sure, not everyone needs the internet. The important thing is that
you have it when you need it. Yes, of course, and other peoples’
internet too….. So, for food safety, the budget is moving information
off the labels and on to the internet, so the people in remote
communities do not need to read that food information? …. No, I am not a
foreign funded radical. …. Yes, sir, I respect the office of Prime
Minister of Canada. I am sure it is a very nice office…..
BN: I apologise, absolutely, it’s just that I find a certain amount of
humour in this…..
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<DIV>Or this from Rick Salutin</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 7px; BORDER-LEFT: #050505 1px solid">Good =
sarcastic humour,&nbsp;but probably counterproductive.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Nobody likes to be ridiculed, and some get vindictive.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>For the federal Conservatives, you're either with them or against =
them.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Stand with us, or stand with the pedophiles -&nbsp;they really do see =
the world in black and white.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Here is some highly recommended scholarly and 100% non-partisan =
reading on the topic:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://righteousmind.com">http://righteousmind.com</A></DIV=
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>JvL</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line=
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respect the office of Prime Minister of Canada. I am sure it is a very =
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