[Advisors] Let community re-think community

Sun, 06 May 2012 14:03:45 -0300

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As compared to say the US (have you followed the republican primary)? Or th=
e
Greeks?

Regardless, the first step is to stop beating ourselves up over what we are
not.

Gary

On 12.05.06 1:32 PM, "James Van Leeuwen" <jvl@ventus.ca> wrote:

> It says that Canadians still don't have the emotional and intellectual
> maturity for substantive discourse around morals and values.
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> It says we need to grow up.
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> James
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> On 2012-05-05, at 1:22 PM, Garth Graham wrote:
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>> > On 2012-05-05, at 12:19 AM, James Van Leeuwen wrote:
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>>> >> Garth asks:
>>> >> What kind of a society do we want? =8A  I think the very essence of th=
e
>>> challenge we Canadians face today is that we have so many conflicting
>>> visions of what we want our society to look like. =8A  What we lack is
>>> sufficient moral capital to bind the nation into a common and cohesive
>>> society with a meaningful purpose and a coherent vision for itself.  =8A
>>> Without an appealing new moral vision and narrative to bind us together=
,
>>> collaboration and cooperation across groups will be next to impossible.
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>> > James, I congratulate you on risking discussion of values when, from m=
y
>> experience, the tolerance of Canadians for matters philosophical is pret=
ty
>> limited.  The first and only time I dared wade into that debate about
>> narrative was in June of 1994 (see attached report of a workshop on
>> electronic democracy).  The report predicts, accurately, that without on=
going
>> discussion of values there would be no real basis for effective public
>> policies about Canada's transformation into a digital society.  What doe=
s a
>> silence that's now 18 years deep say about the current content of public
>> policy?
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>> > GG
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>> > <Values debate.rtf>
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As compared to say the US (have you followed the republican primary)? Or t=
he Greeks? 
 
Regardless, the first step is to stop beating ourselves up over what we are=
 not. 
 
Gary 
 
 
On 12.05.06 1:32 PM, &quot;James Van Leeuwen&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"jvl@ventus.=
ca">jvl@ventus.ca</a>&gt; wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>It says that Canadians still don't have the emotiona=
l and intellectual maturity for substantive discourse around morals and valu=
es. 
 
It says we need to grow up. 
 
James 
 
 
 
On 2012-05-05, at 1:22 PM, Garth Graham wrote: 
 
&gt; On 2012-05-05, at 12:19 AM, James Van Leeuwen wrote: 
&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Garth asks: 
&gt;&gt; What kind of a society do we want? &#8230; &nbsp;I think the very =
essence of the challenge we Canadians face today is that we have so many con=
flicting visions of what we want our society to look like. &#8230; &nbsp;Wha=
t we lack is sufficient moral capital to bind the nation into a common and c=
ohesive society with a meaningful purpose and a coherent vision for itself. =
&nbsp;&#8230; &nbsp;Without an appealing new moral vision and narrative to b=
ind us together, collaboration and cooperation across groups will be next to=
 impossible. 
&gt; 
&gt; James, I congratulate you on risking discussion of values when, from m=
y experience, the tolerance of Canadians for matters philosophical is pretty=
 limited. &nbsp;The first and only time I dared wade into that debate about =
narrative was in June of 1994 (see attached report of a workshop on electron=
ic democracy). &nbsp;The report predicts, accurately, that without ongoing d=
iscussion of values there would be no real basis for effective public polici=
es about Canada's transformation into a digital society. &nbsp;What does a s=
ilence that's now 18 years deep say about the current content of public poli=
cy? 
&gt; 
&gt; GG 
&gt; 
&gt; &lt;Values debate.rtf&gt; 
 
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