[Advisors] YI Delays
Marita Moll
mmoll at ca.inter.net
Wed Jun 3 05:23:16 PDT 2015
I am wondering if it would help at all to try to arrange a meeting -- I
know most people could not make it to Ottawa but it could be a
teleconference at the same time. Or have you all already aired these
problems with reps in Ottawa to no avail.
Marita
On 6/2/2015 10:20 AM, Bev Collins wrote:
>
> We won’t be able to use our admin budget (10%) on hiring a provincial
> coordinator – we can’t leave youth to run the program - there MUST be
> non-youth oversight, reporting, financial, sending cheques,
> communicating with supervisors. One way we administer the program is
> to leave the youth to the interns – but the supervisors, managers,
> administrators, library coordinators are dealt with by us. We’ve met
> most of them and know them. It makes for an easy roll-out. I can’t
> EVEN imagine throwing a new person into the job of communicating to
> interns AND supervisors while LEARNING the program. Next year maybe
> as we would make changes so that could happen – but I’m just not sure
> how this will work. WE are responsible for the final reports – and
> these are usually done in April/May when the youth interns are long
> gone – I can’t imagine being left in the position of sorting through
> the work of interns that have worked on their own to compile reports.
>
> Bev
>
> *From:* advisors-bounces at tc.ca [mailto:advisors-bounces at tc.ca] *On
> Behalf Of *Monique Chartrand
> *Sent:* June 2, 2015 6:50 AM
> *Cc:* TC Advisors
> *Subject:* Re: [Advisors] YI Delays
>
> Hello,
>
> For our part, the impacts of the changes, that we’re still trying to
> understand the meaning, appear majors.
>
> We understand that the internships should provide opportunities to
> develop ICT skills and to allow non-profit organizations, offering
> internships in promising fields, to benefit from those skills.
>
> We are not sure to understand Industry Canada's definition of ICT and
> their link with internships in aerospace and video games NPOs. In
> fact, we don't find a lot of high-tech NPOs. We continue to look
> around for those because we’re asked to do so again and again. We also
> question the relevance of this type of internships that have more to
> do with the private sector, that already pays for those and don’t
> represent de facto a particular challenge for the employability of
> young people involved in these professions. No doubt they lack of
> manpower in these areas, but would those internships really make a
> difference?
>
> Our two major difficulties are therefore to understand the program
> since Industry Canada's proposal and job description is the same as
> before. Yet again, it seems clear to us that the internships in the
> CAP sites were very powerful for young interns regarding their
> appropriation of the ICTs and also to help communities to use them for
> economic and community development based on "Connect Canada". They had
> an opportunity to develop certain XXI century's skills, which are the
> most sought after by companies across all skills.
>
> The other challenge regards the administrative changes. In our
> practice, the 8% given to administrative costs (10% before benefits)
> was already a financial deficit that we accept to fill since we
> implemented a facilitating operational system regarding the
> bureaucratic procedures, which is no longer accepted.
>
> Also, the organizations (NPOs) must be autonomous in their management
> (which suggests that we'll have to do a lot of administrative reviews
> and more to get all the administrative documentation in time, so more
> administration and not less), and no internship for the provincial
> coordination.
>
> In addition, we need to spend a lot of the administrative budget in
> the hiring of a full-time coordinator, which we want for years to the
> extent that we would have a three-year agreement or renewed in March
> to avoid breaks, which we can't afford with uncertain agreements
> signature or months later. Confirming the refusal to pay the time that
> our team put.
>
> So we are a little puzzled.
>
> Monique
>
> Le 2015-06-02 à 09:23, Bev Collins a écrit :
>
>
>
> June is when they deliberate over the proposals that came in. It's
> changed so much that anyone who used to deliver to CAP Sites are
> probably in trouble this year.
>
> I sent them the CBC story that was done on lapsed funding, and the
> reporter said it was because of delays in getting the project
> started. We are already behind, this program is supposed to start
> April 1. If they decide in June and provide a CA in June we will
> still be into July and probably August for hiring.
>
> The ones that do or will get CA's this year will be expected to do
> more with less. It reminds me of what we said 5 or 6 years ago,
> that they won't kill the program they will just starve it. Well
> now they aren't starving it necessarily... but over complicating
> it by micromanaging. Now even the 10% that was provided to
> organizations to use to manage the program is being managed by
> industry Canada.
>
> Bev
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Dana Perry
> <awvcscor at valleylibrary.ca <mailto:awvcscor at valleylibrary.ca>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Marita...we have been able to tap into the YI program here
> in Nova
>
> Scotia...as for details etc I am unable to accurately report on
>
> that...perhaps Karen Parusel can speak to that. We are going
> ahead
>
> and hiring CAP youth for the summer and into the Fall/Winter in
>
> support of the Nova Scotia Community Access Program...:)
>
> Dana
>
> Quoting Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net
> <mailto:mmoll at ca.inter.net>>:
>
> Thanks Clarice. I know you folks in Manitoba use this
> program as
>
> does Vancouver Comm. Net and the networks Bev. works with
> under
>
> PCNA. Who else out there is affected?
>
> Marita
>
> On 6/1/2015 8:28 PM, cleader at mb.e-association.ca
> <mailto:cleader at mb.e-association.ca> wrote:
>
> No not cancelled, but trying their best to force us to
> withdraw of
>
> our own volition. Don't think anyone has yet. I just
> resent them
>
> our major successes ( which the previous
> administration had) and
>
> some history of the program.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>
> *From: *Marita Moll
>
> *Sent: *Monday, June 1, 2015 7:24 PM
>
> *To: *cleader at mb.e-association.ca
> <mailto:*cleader at mb.e-association.ca>
>
> *Cc: *Bev Collins; 'TC Advisors'
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Advisors] YI Delays
>
> Hello all. So has the program been cancelled
> completely, or reduced?
>
> Marita
>
> On 5/11/2015 10:12 AM, cleader at mb.e-association.ca
> <mailto:cleader at mb.e-association.ca> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bev, sounds consistent with his way of
> thinking. Too bad
>
> they cannot see the long term benefits of the program.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>
> *From: *Bev Collins
>
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 7:01 PM
>
> *To: *'TC Advisors'
>
> *Subject: *[Advisors] YI Delays
>
> I see some reasons behind the delays now…
>
> I was told last week by our Industry Canada
> officer that it was
>
> Treasury board that “was not keen on the YI
> program as they
>
> associate it with the CAP program that ended in
> 2012 and question
>
> why this program has not also ended.” The delays
> are with
>
> Treasury Board – last year it was very late.
>
> If you all remember in 2010 it was then Industry
> Canada Minister
>
> Tony Clement that cancelled cap then quickly
> reinstated it when
>
> caught in a media scrum – how embarrassing was
> that. Now he’s
>
> Treasury Board chair.
>
> Bev
>
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