[Advisors] teleconference -- draft notes
Clarice Leader
cleader at mb.e-association.ca
Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:28:32 -0500
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I agree with Garth I did not say that.
On the small business side, my point was don't count on it as the Small
Business Internship Program will only run this year and will not continue
beyond that. We met with Victor Paul-Elias who is the Director of that
program this morning and three days before he and all his
staff received their letters saying their jobs were being cut he was being
offered more money (1,5M) for the program by HRSD (YES) because the program
was so successful and small business saw such a great return on the
investment. Then later this morning I received an email from an IC staff in
Ottawa who worked with us on CAPYI, did our reviews and claims and he has
been cut his last day is today. It make me wonder if CAPYI is really going
to happen. If it does not then we really have to figure out something
different.
Marita I am hoping to have a chance to review your notes this evening and
will get back to you.
On 26 April 2012 13:10, Michael Corbett <Michael.Corbett@cannor.gc.ca>wrote:
> As the saying goes: if you're dealt lemons - make lemonade.
>
> CAP as we know it is dead. So our task is to design a new CAP (and start
> with a new name). The new parameters that must be included are those that
> the government will feel comfortable recognizing as important, critical,
> deliverable and will generate votes.
>
> Some of the things that are in the news these days are jobs, moving folks
> to where the jobs are, supplying the job market with appropriate
> labour, basic education upgrades (not necessarily grade 12 or GEDs but
> education , literacy and math, that will get folks into the labour force or
> advance them. This is all economic development.
>
> Also giving small business the skills to compete and expand and employ.
>
> The concept of giving people access to gov't services is nice as CAP has
> delivered it but now it has to be shown how it will be cost efficient,
> effective, and relieve the strain on the centres (don't know how truthful
> that last point is).
>
> The new CAP must show how it contributes directly currently and in the
> short term to the economy, How it is part of the solution and can supply
> some of the tools for growth and broaden the economic base at the community
> and regional and territorial/provincial and national levels. Economies of
> scale. And, as was said during the call yesterday, having some private
> sector partners is always advantageous.
>
> James is right on below - its about jobs, the economy, and growth.
>
> Michael C
>
>
> >>> On 4/25/2012 at 10:26 PM, in message <
> 6A1DB501-C791-400A-B1E5-4195E20120FC@ventus.ca>, James Van Leeuwen <
> jvl@ventus.ca> wrote:
> Somebody mentioned small business, but it wasn't me.
>
>
> That said...
>
> If the objective is to advance digital inclusion, can we leverage small
> business development towards this end?
>
> If small business development is where the $$ are, how can we be about
> small business development?
>
> At risk of stating the obvious, the present political climate doesn't lend
> itself to initiatives rooted in social justice and inclusion.
>
> The federal government is going in the opposite direction.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2012-04-25, at 8:54 PM, Garth Graham wrote:
>
> > On 2012-04-25, at 12:02 PM, Marita Moll wrote:
> >
> >> <Advisor mtg-Apr25-12.doc>
> >
> >
> >> GG: Strong small business focus, not poverty focus
> >
> > Believe me, as the author of TC's digital inclusion policy, I definitely
> did NOT say that and don't believe it (and neither did Clarice). I think
> James first said that.
> >
> > GG_______________________________________________
> > Advisors mailing list
> > Advisors@tc.ca
> > http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors
>
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Clarice Leader
Executive Director Manitoba E-Association
Cell: 204- 781-6937
Blackberry PIN: 326F0E5A
Email : cleader@mb.e-association.ca
"Innovation is not the product of logical thought, even though the final
product is tied to a logical structure." Einstein
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<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I agree with Garth I =
did not say that.=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">On the small business side, my point was don't count o=
n it as the Small Business Internship Program will only run this year and w=
ill not continue beyond that. We met with Victor Paul-Elias who is the Dire=
ctor of that program this morning and three days before he and all his staf=
f=A0received=A0their letters saying their jobs were being cut he was being =
offered more money (1,5M) for the program by HRSD (YES) because the program=
was so successful and small business saw such a great return on the invest=
ment. Then later this morning I received an email from an IC staff in Ottaw=
a who worked with us on CAPYI, did our reviews and claims and he has been c=
ut his last day is today. It make me wonder if CAPYI is really going to hap=
pen. If it does not then we really have to figure out something different.<=
/div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Marita I am=
hoping to have a chance to review your notes this evening and will get bac=
k to you.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 26 April 2012 13:10, Micha=
el Corbett <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:Michael.Corbett@cannor.g=
c.ca" target=3D"_blank">Michael.Corbett@cannor.gc.ca</a>></span> wrote:<=
br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"MARGIN:4px 4px 1px;FONT:12pt Arial">
<div>As the saying goes: if you're dealt lemons - make lemonade.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>CAP as we know it is dead. So our task is to design a new CAP (and sta=
rt with a new name). The new parameters that must be included are those tha=
t the government will feel comfortable recognizing as important, critical, =
deliverable and will generate votes.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Some of the things that are in the news these days are jobs, moving fo=
lks to where the jobs are, supplying the job market with appropriate labour=
,=A0basic education upgrades (not necessarily grade 12 or GEDs but educatio=
n , literacy and math, that will get folks into the labour force or advance=
them. This is all economic development.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Also giving small business the skills to compete and expand and employ=
.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>The concept of giving people access to gov't services is nice as C=
AP has delivered it but now it has to be shown how it will be cost efficien=
t, effective, and relieve the strain on the centres (don't know how tru=
thful that last point is).</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>The new CAP must show how it contributes directly currently=A0and in t=
he short term to the economy, How it is part of the solution and can=A0supp=
ly some of=A0the tools for growth and broaden the economic base at the comm=
unity and regional and territorial/provincial and national levels. Economie=
s of scale. And, as was said during the call yesterday, having some private=
sector partners is always advantageous.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>James is right on below - its about jobs, the economy, and growth.</di=
v>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Michael C<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>>>> On 4/25/2012 at 1=
0:26 PM, in message <<a href=3D"mailto:6A1DB501-C791-400A-B1E5-4195E2012=
0FC@ventus.ca" target=3D"_blank">6A1DB501-C791-400A-B1E5-4195E20120FC@ventu=
s.ca</a>>, James Van Leeuwen <<a href=3D"mailto:jvl@ventus.ca" target=
=3D"_blank">jvl@ventus.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:7px;BORDER-LEFT:#050505 1px solid">Somebody ment=
ioned small business, but it wasn't me.<br><br><br>That said...<br><br>=
If the objective is to advance digital inclusion, can we leverage small bus=
iness development towards this end?<br>
<br>If small business development is where the $$ are, how can we be about =
small business development?<br><br>At risk of stating the obvious, the pres=
ent political climate doesn't lend itself to initiatives rooted in soci=
al justice and inclusion.<br>
<br>The federal government is going in the opposite direction.<br><br><br><=
br><br><br><br><br>On 2012-04-25, at 8:54 PM, Garth Graham wrote:<br><br>&g=
t; On 2012-04-25, at 12:02 PM, Marita Moll wrote:<br>> <br>>> <=
Advisor mtg-Apr25-12.doc><br>
> <br>> <br>>> GG:=A0 Strong small business focus, not poverty =
focus<br>> <br>> Believe me, as the author of TC's digital inclus=
ion policy, I definitely did NOT say that and don't believe it (and nei=
ther did Clarice).=A0 I think James first said that.<br>
> <br>> GG_______________________________________________<br>> Adv=
isors mailing list<br>> <a href=3D"mailto:Advisors@tc.ca" target=3D"_bla=
nk">Advisors@tc.ca</a><br>> <a href=3D"http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/lis=
tinfo/advisors" target=3D"_blank">http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/ad=
visors</a><br>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>Advisors mailing lis=
t<br><a href=3D"mailto:Advisors@tc.ca" target=3D"_blank">Advisors@tc.ca</a>=
<br><a href=3D"http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors" target=3D"_=
blank">http://victoria.tc.ca/mailman/listinfo/advisors</a><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Clarice Lead=
er<br>Executive Director Manitoba E-Association <br>Cell: 204- 781-6937<br>=
Blackberry PIN: 326F0E5A<br>Email : <a href=3D"mailto:cleader@mb.e-associat=
ion.ca" target=3D"_blank">cleader@mb.e-association.ca</a> <br>
<br>"Innovation is not the product of logical thought, even though the=
final product is tied to a logical structure." Einstein<br><br>
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