[Advisors] Openparliament.ca
michael gurstein
gurstein at gmail.com
Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:17:21 -0800
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Hi,
As some of you know I'm quite active at the moment in civil society for
global Internet governance stuff. That is in the process of heating up
quite considerably and I foresee that the discussion there will be very very
hot and heavy over the next few years. It would be great if there were
other voices in Canada engaged in those discussions outside of the mini-me
stuff that comes out of Ottawa on this -- mostly it would appear from lack
of interest among the politicians and the set of corporate folks pulling
their strings at the moment.
I think that we in Canada should be advocating for a global Internet
operating as a global public good and operating within a public interest
framework. There are a lot of forces aligning against that, both corporate
forces that want to see the Internet operate in support of various private
and particular national interests and state forces that want to control the
content of the Internet as an outcome of various types of repressive
national policies. But I think that it is in everyone's interests as
citizens if nothing else that the Internet be "governed" more like "free" as
in a public water supply than as "free" as in free beer.
http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/towards-the-internet-as-a-global-pu
blic-good/
M
From: advisors-admin@tc.ca [mailto:advisors-admin@tc.ca] On Behalf Of James
Van Leeuwen
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:45 AM
To: Garth Graham
Cc: Marita Moll; TC Advisors
Subject: Re: [Advisors] Openparliament.ca
Garth,
I believe it's a matter of helping to create that "significant ally", and
the sooner the better.
The community/municipal sector is the lowest-hanging fruit, but it has to be
properly rallied to the cause.
I am channelling much of my volunteer time into iCANADA for this reason.
They now have the required nationwide footprint in the municipal/community
sector, but they could be a lot more effective in advancing the agenda.
They are also well connected to the tech sector, which shares our
frustration with pace of development in Canada.
Cloud service vendors are particularly keen to see everyone in the country
able to access their services.
We first need an inspiring narrative to get everyone engaged and aligned.
We then need leadership that can really *own* the narrative.
The leadership we presently have may be too old and too corporate and stodgy
in character.
Impassioned youth could and should be the most powerful force to drive
progress.
We first need the inspiring vision and narrative to get them engaged and
aligned.
I think this is where TC could best focus its limited time and energy,
starting with asking the right question.
Here's the question that guides my own thoughts and actions:
In relation to ICT, what difference can a fully included and fully enabled
Canadian population make to the future of Canada and the world?
This is the leadership that is most needed today, and it's the leadership
that I believe TC can provide.
I actually believe that TC is the most credible and capable agent in the
country to pose such a question and facilitate emergence of a powerful
vision and narrative around it.
TC's longstanding focus on digital inclusion sets it apart in a
fundamentally important way.
The roles for TC are straightforward:
1) Reach out and collaborate with a few key partners to craft the most
engaging question possible, starting with the people who have the biggest
stake in the future (youth).
2) Create an on-line forum and invite *everyone* in Canada into a dialog
around the question, leveraging established social media channels.
3) Be wise, positive, encouraging and generous in advancing the
conversation. We all have to own the vision and the narrative.
The rest will take care of itself, including the emergence of a 'significant
ally' (maybe iCANADA, maybe something new).
So... do we want to get this conversation started?
James (hell ya!)
On 2013-02-09, at 6:09 AM, Garth Graham <garth.graham@telus.net> wrote:
It's time to parallel a push for digital inclusion strategies with
community-based broadband strategies(along the lines that James has been
arguing). But there is no point to making that push unless we can negotiate
agreement on those two pillars with some significant allies
GG
On 2013-02-08, at 4:47 PM, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:
openparliament.ca <http://openparliament.ca/>
This is a truly amazing site -- easy and fully searchable access to debates
in the HofC. Try searching for "community access program" and see all the
times this was brought up during and after the decision to kill the program
and by whom and what was said. It certainly didn't die without a fight.
There has been no mention of CAP for some time. I'm wondering how we might
use the information available here to bring it back to the table. Anybody
got some stories to report about the impact of the loss of the program that
could be fed to a friendly local MP?
Other ideas?
Marita
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D'>As some of you know I'm quite active at the moment in civil society =
for global Internet governance stuff. That is in the process of =
heating up quite considerably and I foresee that the discussion there =
will be very very hot and heavy over the next few years. It would =
be great if there were other voices in Canada engaged in those =
discussions outside of the mini-me stuff that comes out of Ottawa on =
this -- mostly it would appear from lack of interest among the =
politicians and the set of corporate folks pulling their strings at the =
moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I think that we in Canada should be advocating for a global Internet =
operating as a global public good and operating within a public interest =
framework. There are a lot of forces aligning against that, both =
corporate forces that want to see the Internet operate in support of =
various private and particular national interests and state forces that =
want to control the content of the Internet as an outcome of various =
types of repressive national policies. But I think that it is in =
everyone's interests as citizens if nothing else that the Internet be =
"governed" more like "free" as in a public water =
supply than as "free" as in free beer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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a-global-public-good/">http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/towards-t=
he-internet-as-a-global-public-good/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
advisors-admin@tc.ca [mailto:advisors-admin@tc.ca] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>James Van Leeuwen<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:45 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Garth Graham<br><b>Cc:</b> Marita Moll; TC =
Advisors<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Advisors] =
Openparliament.ca<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Garth,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
believe it's a matter of helping to create that "significant =
ally", and the sooner the better.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The community/municipal sector is the lowest-hanging =
fruit, but it has to be properly rallied to the =
cause. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am channelling much of my volunteer time into iCANADA for this =
reason. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They now have the required nationwide footprint in the =
municipal/community sector, but they could be a lot more effective in =
advancing the agenda. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They are also well connected to the tech sector, which =
shares our frustration with pace of development in =
Canada.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cloud service vendors are particularly keen to see =
everyone in the country able to access their =
services.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We first need an inspiring narrative to get everyone =
engaged and aligned.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We then need leadership that can really *own* the =
narrative.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The leadership we presently have may be too old and =
too corporate and stodgy in character.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Impassioned youth could and should be the most =
powerful force to drive progress.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We first need the inspiring vision and narrative =
to get them engaged and aligned.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
think this is where TC could best focus its limited time and energy, =
starting with asking the right question.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Here's the question that guides my own thoughts and =
actions:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>In relation to ICT, what difference can a fully =
included and fully enabled Canadian population make to the future of =
Canada and the world?</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This is the leadership that is most needed today, and =
it's the leadership that I believe TC can =
provide. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
actually believe that TC is the most credible and capable agent in the =
country to pose such a question and facilitate emergence of a powerful =
vision and narrative around it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TC's longstanding focus on digital inclusion sets =
it apart in a fundamentally important =
way. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The roles for TC are =
straightforward:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1) Reach out and collaborate with a few key partners =
to craft the most engaging question possible, starting with the =
people who have the biggest stake in the future =
(youth). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>2) Create an on-line forum and invite *everyone* in =
Canada into a dialog around the question, leveraging established social =
media channels. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>3) Be wise, positive, encouraging and generous in =
advancing the conversation. We all have to own the vision and the =
narrative. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The rest will take care of itself, including the =
emergence of a 'significant ally' (maybe iCANADA, maybe something =
new). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So... do we want to get this conversation =
started?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>James (hell ya!)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
2013-02-09, at 6:09 AM, Garth Graham <<a =
href=3D"mailto:garth.graham@telus.net">garth.graham@telus.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It's time to parallel a push for digital inclusion =
strategies with community-based broadband strategies(along the lines =
that James has been arguing). But there is no point to making that push =
unless we can negotiate agreement on those two pillars with some =
significant allies<br><br>GG<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2013-02-08, at =
4:47 PM, Marita Moll <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><a =
href=3D"http://openparliament.ca/">openparliament.ca</a> <br><br>This is =
a truly amazing site -- easy and fully searchable access to debates in =
the HofC. Try searching for "community access program" =
and see all the times this was brought up during and after the decision =
to kill the program and by whom and what was said. It certainly =
didn't die without a fight.<br><br>There has been no mention of CAP for =
some time. I'm wondering how we might use the information =
available here to bring it back to the table. Anybody got some =
stories to report about the impact of the loss of the program that could =
be fed to a friendly local MP?<br><br>Other ideas? <br><br>Marita =
<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>
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